Steelbooks j cards

I have always scanned the front with the jcard in place.

The question comes to the rear cover scan.  Should the scan be done while attached to the steelbook, therefore exposing the edges of the steelbook around the jcard, or should the jcard be scanned on its own.?

I am going to try this again, I did not get much of a reply from last time.

Steelbooks typically have a paper j card that wraps over the top.  The front is usually just the media format of the enclosed disks, but sometimes has other information, like an edition.

The back is typically a full cover, with all the information typically found on the rear of a slip cover, or case insert.

There is a contribution that I made, scanned image with the jcard in place on the front, therefore exposing the 4k UHD banner.  This is the way that I have always submitted my scans.

There were 2 no votes (out of 5) that said that the banner should not be in place.  I do not see anything addressing this in the rules,  What say you..

Issue 2.  The rear image with the J-card.  I have always scanned with the j-card in place in the steelbook, but have wondered  whether this should be the correct way.  I think the image would look better (and be easier to scan) if the j-card was scanned without the underlying steelbook.  The underlying steelbook does not add any information, just makes the image look cluttered.  What say you.

Looking for opinions on both issues...

Thanx

Charlie

There. You got two answers this time.

Me, I always like the cover to be a representation of what gets pulled off the shelf. Therefore I keep them in place.

Quoting CharlieM:

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Issue 2.  The rear image with the J-card.  I have always scanned with the j-card in place in the steelbook, but have wondered  whether this should be the correct way.  I think the image would look better (and be easier to scan) if the j-card was scanned without the underlying steelbook.  The underlying steelbook does not add any information, just makes the image look cluttered.  What say you.

For all the steelbooks that I own, the j-card covers the entire rear anyways. In those cases, I don't see the point in including the case with the j-card. Just the j-card itself should suffice

There are many times that that j-card has the edition on it also. 

024543458999 (Kingsman: Golden Circle: Limited Edition Steelbook) is on the J-Card

786936859706 (Limited Edition Steelbook) on the J-Card

024543556336 (Super Duper $@%!#& Cut: Collectible Steelbook) on the J-card

Quoting CharlieM:

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There are many times that that j-card has the edition on it also. 

024543458999 (Kingsman: Golden Circle: Limited Edition Steelbook) is on the J-Card

786936859706 (Limited Edition Steelbook) on the J-Card

024543556336 (Super Duper $@%!#& Cut: Collectible Steelbook) on the J-card

The "Deadpool 2" steelbook has a slip cover not a j-card, therefore it's absolutly correct to scan it with banners. If you would scan it without the slip cover you would lose the speech bubble which is part of the artwork (at least in the US, most other countries do not have that bubble.).

re: the other titles: Those banners disturb the artwork but have no real benefit at all. There is just a legal reason (rating logos which the collectors (especially in Germany) do not like at all) or promotional reasons (people cannot read the title when it's behind the necessary slip, HDR and the contents have to be advertised). In the Profiler we can easily access those information there is no need to include them into the scans.

Example:


It destroys the artwork. But that is the reason a j-slip is used for it. To scan the cover art you have to remove it. The corresponding profile does not have this slip.



This steelbook does not even have the title printed on the front (I hate that!), but it's scanned without the j-slip in the database.

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Most j-cards also have the title on them, something that is not printed on the steelbook cover.

As far as the back cover, why do you include that, it is not printed on the steelbook, therefore, why include that?

There are a few j-cards with the title not printed on it (see "Blade Runner 2049" above), but most steelbooks still have it printed on itself (even Disney steelbooks outside of the US). In some countries like Germany or France the localized title sometimes is printed on the j-slip which mostly also includes rating logos. These slips are mostly plain black and definetly not art and do not belong to the cover art for which reason they are not scanned.

I include the back slip because it is similar to the backcover in regular keep case releases. It contains information and the EAN/UPC. As you said before, it's a full backcover.


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Btw. "Jumani" wasn't the first of your contributions with banner that got declined.