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Contribution Rules Update for 3.9.0
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantGSyren
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How does Alternate Version affect Disc count?

There is no disc count, only a profile count. But you can set "Count as" to 0 in a profile if you don't want it counted.
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It does change the Disc Count. The additional Profiles, which used to be just one profile, now have a disc count of one which means my actual number of discs in now overstated. I'll have to find each of the new profiles and change the disc count to 0...what a pita.

The new Profiles also have no Collection Numbers which means I'll have to do a Partial Reassignment and assign numbers where blank.

Actually, I reassigned All Collection numbers to keep them in order. Doing a partial reassignment screws up the order.
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How are you guys handling your Collection Numbering now for these new "Box Sets"? For example, I have the "El Mariachi / Desperado: Double Feature" which was just one Profile with a Collection Number. Now its a Box Set with two Child Profiles with the same Disc ID. Do you leave the Collection Number on the Parent as it was originally or do you set the Parent to None and assign Collection Numbers to the Child Profiles like a normal Movie Box Set?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorrdodolak
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How does Alternate Version affect Disc count? Since we are adding additional "Alternate" Disc IDs to profile multiple films on a single side of a disc, does this now increase the number of discs counted even though in reality it is a single disc? Am I making sense?

I'm about to pull the trigger on the latest profile updates that include Alternate Versions of, i.e., The Best of Bud Abbott and Lou Costello UPC 025192492723. Will my disc count now increase with these new Disc IDs? Does the program also assign a Collection Number to these new IDs?



The better option, IMO, would be to add the total disc count to the main profile and then leave the disc count for each of the disc profiles as 0.

Main Profile (2)
- Disc profile A (0)
- Disc profile A #1 (0)
- Disc profile A #2 (0)
- Disc profile B (0)
- Disc profile B #1 (0)
- Disc profile B #2 (0)

The other option would be to add the disc count to the first disc profile and then add a disc count of 0 to the remaining variant disc profiles.

Main Profile (0)
- Disc profile A (1)
- Disc profile A #1 (0)
- Disc profile A #2 (0)
- Disc profile B (1)
- Disc profile B #1 (0)
- Disc profile B #2 (0)
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How are you guys handling your Collection Numbering now for these new "Box Sets"? For example, I have the "El Mariachi / Desperado: Double Feature" which was just one Profile with a Collection Number. Now its a Box Set with two Child Profiles with the same Disc ID. Do you leave the Collection Number on the Parent as it was originally or do you set the Parent to None and assign Collection Numbers to the Child Profiles like a normal Movie Box Set?


I set the parent to none and number the two child profiles because I'm interested in the number of movies in my collection.

I did the same for movie box sets before variants came along.
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How are you guys handling your Collection Numbering now for these new "Box Sets"? For example, I have the "El Mariachi / Desperado: Double Feature" which was just one Profile with a Collection Number. Now its a Box Set with two Child Profiles with the same Disc ID. Do you leave the Collection Number on the Parent as it was originally or do you set the Parent to None and assign Collection Numbers to the Child Profiles like a normal Movie Box Set?


I set the parent to none and number the two child profiles because I'm interested in the number of movies in my collection.

I did the same for movie box sets before variants came along.


I agree. That's how I handled them before variants as well. Thanks Hal.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantkd5
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My personal opinion is that creating separate profiles/discs for multi-movie discs will create a huge cluster-f*** in my collection and I choose to leave it as it was. 

With the Village of the Damned/Children of the Damned double-feature DVD (as an example), I have one disc with 2 movies on it;  One disc, one profile with both movies listed, counted as 2 in my collection to keep the numbers right.  I don't need 2 separate discs/profiles (same disc ID for both) for a single disc that has 2 movies on it.  Just creates more work than I'm willing to invest transcribing personal info from one profile to another for no particularly good reason.  Not only that, it artificially inflates my collection, again for no particularly good reason. 

Tremors: Attack Pack BD is another example.  2 discs, 2 movies per disc.  Instead of having 2 discs accurately relected in Profiler, with 2 movies per disc (as it should be IMO), the proposal is to now have 4 separate discs (2 Disc IDs) to separate each of the 4 movies/profiles.  I hold in my hand one 4-movie collection, 2 discs which hold 4 movies, 2 movies per disc.  Not 4 discs.....2 discs with 2 movies per disc.  As it is in my collection, it is accurately relected in that regard.  I'll not change that on the whim of a few who want separate disc IDs for each of the 4 movies.

I don't keep up with the latest arguments here but it seems to me like this whole concept with "variants" and "alternates" just creates a huge cluster-f*** I choose not to participate in.

I'm sure the proponents of this will say I'm being foolish for my out-dated and obsolete views but it is, after all, my opinion.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorhal9g
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That is the beauty of this program. You are free to profile your collection whichever way suits you.
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I don't need 2 separate discs/profiles (same disc ID for both) for a single disc that has 2 movies on it.

The program now allows us to profile two movies on the same side of a single disc just as it has for years allowed us to profile two movies on opposite sides of a single disc.  It's not a drastic change and as has been said we're all free to use this feature or not.

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With the Village of the Damned/Children of the Damned double-feature DVD (as an example), I have one disc with 2 movies on it;  One disc, one profile with both movies listed, counted as 2 in my collection to keep the numbers right.  I don't need 2 separate discs/profiles (same disc ID for both) for a single disc that has 2 movies on it.  Just creates more work than I'm willing to invest transcribing personal info from one profile to another for no particularly good reason.  Not only that, it artificially inflates my collection, again for no particularly good reason.

How does it artificially inflate your collection?  You said that the single dual-film profile is counted as 2 in your collection.  If you used a single profile for each film, wouldn't you just set the count for them as 1 each giving you a count of 2...which is what you currently have?  Or am I missing something? 
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I'll not change that on the whim of a few who want separate disc IDs for each of the 4 movies.

I won't get into the benefits, or lack thereof, but this wasn't "on the whim of a few."  Many, many users have been asking for a way to profile each individual film for years.
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Where are the contribution rules?  I'd like to start making contributions, but I need to look over the contribution rules first.  It's been a decade or more probably since I made a contribution.  Sorry, I know right. 

Also, real quick.  I just finished adding the below title to my collection which I plan to watch this evening in a bit.  (Click the screenshot below taken from My Movies for WMC7 to view my local profile for this title.)



So given that I made a significant number of updates to the profile once downloading it I thought I'd make a contribution.  That being said, my main question is regarding the appropriate use of the "DVD Title" and "Edition" fields. 

Currently the online database has...
DVD Title: Highlander
Edition: 30th Anniversary Edition

Both the front cover and spine of this release state "Highlander: Director's Cut" however.  As such, I would think it appropriate to include that as well.

My first thought would be to go with...
DVD Title: Highlander
Edition: Director's Cut: 30th Anniversary Edition

This might be another possibility though...
DVD Title: Highlander: Director's Cut
Edition: 30th Anniversary Edition
Original Title: Highlander

In either case, this release is clearly the director's cut of the film and I would think that should be included per the online database.  Curious to hear others thoughts on this who are familiar with the contribution rules and how this type of thing is usually handled.  Once I've contributed I plan to drop the "30th Anniversary" part altogether per my local database as I prefer to keep the length of my title names down when possible.

And one more question if I may.  What about the "Country of Origin" for this title?  Presently the online database has "United States".  Shouldn't it be "United Kingdom" instead?  I own this title on DVD as well and the online database for that particular profile has "United Kingdom".  IMDb confirms the same.  Or should it be both?  Just curious.  Thanks in advance.
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See rules here http://invelos.com/dvdpro/contributions/Rules.aspx

Thanks!
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Where are the contribution rules?  I'd like to start making contributions, but I need to look over the contribution rules first.  It's been a decade or more probably since I made a contribution.  Sorry, I know right. 

Also, real quick.  I just finished adding the below title to my collection which I plan to watch this evening in a bit.  (Click the screenshot below taken from My Movies for WMC7 to view my local profile for this title.)



So given that I made a significant number of updates to the profile once downloading it I thought I'd make a contribution.  That being said, my main question is regarding the appropriate use of the "DVD Title" and "Edition" fields. 

Currently the online database has...
DVD Title: Highlander
Edition: 30th Anniversary Edition

Both the front cover and spine of this release state "Highlander: Director's Cut" however.  As such, I would think it appropriate to include that as well.

My first thought would be to go with...
DVD Title: Highlander
Edition: Director's Cut: 30th Anniversary Edition

This might be another possibility though...
DVD Title: Highlander: Director's Cut
Edition: 30th Anniversary Edition
Original Title: Highlander

In either case, this release is clearly the director's cut of the film and I would think that should be included per the online database.  Curious to hear others thoughts on this who are familiar with the contribution rules and how this type of thing is usually handled.  Once I've contributed I plan to drop the "30th Anniversary" part altogether per my local database as I prefer to keep the length of my title names down when possible.

And one more question if I may.  What about the "Country of Origin" for this title?  Presently the online database has "United States".  Shouldn't it be "United Kingdom" instead?  I own this title on DVD as well and the online database for that particular profile has "United Kingdom".  IMDb confirms the same.  Or should it be both?  Just curious.  Thanks in advance.


I would imagine..
DVD Title: Highlander
Edition: Director's Cut: 30th Anniversary Edition

Directors cut and 30th Anniversary edition due not belong in the title.  These are edition indicators, and as such, I would combine in some way in the edition field...

I would also agree with the change to the UK.  StudioCanal and Thorn EMI are both European companies...
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Thanks for chiming in and thanks for the link to the contribution rules.  I'll check them out tomorrow.  Peace.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantFlytag
Registered: May 21, 2007
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Just read this discussion, all HD version for Highlander are not Director's Cut but the European Cut. When it's on a Blu-ray cover, it's a mistake. 

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DVD Title: Highlander
Edition: 30th Anniversary Edition
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