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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | As we learned in another thread "Knight Rider" has found a very innovative way of sorting its episodes onto the different discs. On the discs it has the Pilot-episode somewhere on disc 7.
So my question now:
If we profile this how do we handle the sorting?
Do we use the logical sort (Pilot = Episode 1)?
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Do we sort the episodes as we find them on the discs (Pilot = Episode 20)?
This question is for the parent-profile only, when doing the profiles on disc-level I'd consider it to be self-evident that the episode-listing of a disc has to mirror its actual content. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 6,745 |
| | Posted: | | | | In disc order. Or else you will always have ping-ponging. You have the order on DVD, you have the original airing order and you have the one which actually makes sense - all of which can differ. Take classic Star Trek for example. The first ever aired episode was The Man Trap. But that was an executive decision. TMT was chosen because it had a "real alien monster" in it. The actual pilot* was Where No Man Has Gone Before (where Bones is not even ship's doctor yet) which was aired as third episode. *Add to that that WNMHGB was already the second pilot, with The Cage being the first which has an original airdate of 25 Oct. 1993. The original airing of Leverage's first season was completely random, it was fixed on DVD. If anything, I'd allow the numbering of the episodes to reflect the actual order, for example take my cast list for that disc 7: http://doena-soft.de/phpdvdprofiler_en/index.php?lastmedia=I597BF841750B8B22.4 | | | Karsten
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Strictly sorted as on disc. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 20,111 |
| | Posted: | | | | Disc order, like everything else. | | | | Corey |
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| Registered: May 20, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | Like with any other field or piece of data. we catalog DVD/BD's, |
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| Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Posts: 824 |
| | Posted: | | | | In addition to air order, there is also production order.
It's interesting someone brought up Star Trek. I found the most enjoyable way to watch it if you're going to watch every episode, is in production order. You can't do that if you don't have some source for that info. It would be nice if there was some way to show that in DVD Profiler. | | | | 99.9% of all cat plans consist only of "Step 1." | | | | Last edited: by Grendell |
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| Registered: October 30, 2011 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,870 |
| | Posted: | | | | Episode order should be taken based on the disc.
There is noting in the rules that state we can re-order credits or dividers. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | I know why there is a question, but based on the rules, there shouldn't be...disc order. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 554 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Grendell: Quote:
In addition to air order, there is also production order.
It's interesting someone brought up Star Trek. I found the most enjoyable way to watch it if you're going to watch every episode, is in production order. You can't do that if you don't have some source for that info. It would be nice if there was some way to show that in DVD Profiler. This information is easily found on the web and it's fairly simple to copy and paste into DVDP and keep it local for those who want it. One of my favorite TV shows is The Prisoner (1967). For that series, Wikipedia lists 5 different viewing orders. It's almost become a right of passage for fans to create their own!  I echo the view that we're supposed to profile the discs, so disc order is what we should use. | | | My DVD/Blu-ray Collection
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| Registered: May 26, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,879 |
| | Posted: | | | | Disc order. | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 5,734 |
| | Posted: | | | | The Rules are clear about divider captions: "episodes are to be numbered sequentially in the order that they appear on the DVD(s) in the set, with the number sequence carrying over from disc to disc"
The label "20. Knight of the Phoenix" in first place would look silly. | | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | yup... that rules quote alone shows any other way would be against the rules. | | | | Pete |
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