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Different DVD - Same UPC
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantcharleybaak
Registered: March 17, 2007
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What should we do when a new DVD is manufacured, with more or less features than the original, and the same UPC is used for the new DVD. Which one should be in the database?

For example:
Title: The Adventures of Priscilla Queen of the Desert: Special Edition 
UPC: 5-050070-028218     
Locality: United Kingdom 

A: Without Soundtrack Compilation


B: With Soundtrack Compilation


And what to do with DVD's that come with an extra Disc as a promotion at the release and do not have this disc when you buy it later?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorGSyren
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Normally the initial release is the way to go.
In this specific case maybe one could add something like this in Other Features:
"(Rereleased w/o soundtrack compilation)"

Nor ideal, but in this case it might be an important piece of information.
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If its an identical DVD, with diffrent covers, then the first one is to be used. If they arent the same, then you could add it by disc id? I have had a similar situation, where the first release is a limited edition, and the latter not (lesser features). So the second one was added by the disc id.

Quoting GSyren:
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"(Rereleased w/o soundtrack compilation)"


I'm pretty sure its not a rerelease, i't definately sounds like a "Limited Edition" release, for the people that purchase it first.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantcharleybaak
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Quoting GSyren:
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Normally the initial release is the way to go.

But what if you don't know what is the initial release?
If you add your DVD and another user changes it, because his is a bit different...
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorbob9000
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Quoting charleybaak:
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Quoting GSyren:
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Normally the initial release is the way to go.

But what if you don't know what is the initial release?
If you add your DVD and another user changes it, because his is a bit different...

Usually if you look carefully in the tiny lettering on the back cover you can find a copyright date for the packaging and tell that way.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorpompel9
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The first released edition is the on to use in these cases.
And yeah i know, it's not that simple everytime to find out what the first edition is.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDarxon
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And sometimes they're released on the same day. The German Edition of "Evolution" comes to mind: there's a limited digipak edition, with different cover, different overview but the same DVD as the regular version, both released on the same day.

In such cases, should the limited edition carry the UPC, or the more commonly available regular edition?
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I would definitively use the Limited edition as the profile. But that's just me 
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDarxon
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But there are far more people that don't have this edition than there are that do
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Then it would be the first one to make the contribution   
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDarxon
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantJano
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Hm... I see that it's good to use the data of the original release, however that's not always an ideal solution. For example, "Flubber" was released by Buena Vista Germany in 1.33:1 fullscreen. Some years after the original release, they came up with a 1.85:1 widescreen edition. It wasn't formally announced as a new edition; the EAN is still the same - it just replaced the old version.
You can only find out which edition it is by looking at the back cover where the new one says 1.85:1. So you have to pay attention in stores - sometimes the stock is mixed and there are still some old fullscreen dvds in front of the widescreen ones on the shelf. If you order at Amazon, you'll also most probably be sent the old version.

I think it would be stupid to use only the fullscreen edition for the profile. The now correct aspect ratio is an imho important and very significant change which shouldn't be ignored.

But how can both DVDs be listed?
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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Quoting jano:
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Hm... I see that it's good to use the data of the original release, however that's not always an ideal solution. For example, "Flubber" was released by Buena Vista Germany in 1.33:1 fullscreen. Some years after the original release, they came up with a 1.85:1 widescreen edition. It wasn't formally announced as a new edition; the EAN is still the same - it just replaced the old version.
You can only find out which edition it is by looking at the back cover where the new one says 1.85:1. So you have to pay attention in stores - sometimes the stock is mixed and there are still some old fullscreen dvds in front of the widescreen ones on the shelf. If you order at Amazon, you'll also most probably be sent the old version.

I think it would be stupid to use only the fullscreen edition for the profile. The now correct aspect ratio is an imho important and very significant change which shouldn't be ignored.

But how can both DVDs be listed?


The original by UPC the rerelease by Disc ID.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDarxon
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Yup, and in this case, maybe indicate the Widescreen content someplace prominent in the profile as well, maybe the Edition? I know, it's not on the front cover, but IMO this information is very important, and as it is available on the back-cover, I'd advocate including it in the Disc ID profile.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantAryn Ravenlocke
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Now I am having this same problem with two different release versions of the same movie, Eragon. The first profile with the UPC is the 2-Disc Special Edition with the dragon on the cover. However the single disc edition with the poster art on the cover is apparently using the same UPC. Even more annoying for me is that because I didn't check my voice mail before shopping, I now own both versions.

Disc ID doesn't seem to help either.

Most annoying I tell you.
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Quoting Darxon:
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And sometimes they're released on the same day. The German Edition of "Evolution" comes to mind: there's a limited digipak edition, with different cover, different overview but the same DVD as the regular version, both released on the same day.

In such cases, should the limited edition carry the UPC, or the more commonly available regular edition?


Released on the same day with the same UPC? I have yet to see this. How would stores manage those releases in their system?

I have seen 2 releases on the same day with different UPCs or 2nd releases with the same UPC much later after the first release, but no combination of both cases.
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