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New Zealand writing credits
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCubbyUps
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Some time ago I bought a New Zealand produced show called Gold.

In the opening credits of an episode it shows the title Gold and then cuts to a new scene with the following credit.

by Dean Parker

Found a bio of him which states he's a writer.
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I'm just not used to how New Zealand tv series credits writers.

So does he get a writing credit or not?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
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He doesn't get a credit in DVDProfiler.

"By" is by far too unspecified, it might mean anything from Director to "Created By".
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKatatonia
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This is actually quite common in other countries also.

Most old Doctor Who shows (United Kingdom) are the same way. It'll just say "by Chris Boucher" for example right after the opening episode title. These are always credited in the profiles in the database, because that's what they are...the writer, and it can be verified from numerous sources.

So, I would say yes – they should get a Writer credit.
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Yeah, that's a writer credit. Very common in UK shows as well.
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No real opinion with one caveat. I would say this is probably outside the rules at this time. How to resolve it wiring the rules is an interesting idea, would love to see some thoughts.
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Quoting T!M:
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Yeah, that's a writer credit.


It's probably meant to be one.
But as said before the simple word "By" is not exclusively used for writing credits, and even if it was, it still would cover the whole wide region of all job descriptions we use for DVDProfiler (except for Screenwriter maybe).
What is actually meant can only be found out by using sources outside of the credits (as shown in the OP).

So, IMO, it may be a writing credit, but for DVDProfiler purposes we don't use this.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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Quoting Lewis_Prothero:
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So, IMO, it may be a writing credit, but for DVDProfiler purposes we don't use this.

If there's really a strong consensus about that, I'll have to start keeping these local, but I'll admit that I've always submitted them, and no-one ever complained, nor tried to remove them. I've seen many others do the same. 'Doctor Who', as mentioned by Katatonia, is a perfect example: I'm guessing that anyone trying to remove the writing credits from those 'Doctor Who' profiles would find himself buried in no-votes pretty soon. Those writers have consistently been entered - ALL the time...

Again, I've got dozens (not exaggerating) UK shows where "By" is the only writing credit, and each of them is well-documented. Every time, a quick Google search will render plenty of sources confirming that person as the writer. Additionally, in many cases the back cover even identifies the same person with a "written by XXX" mention as part of the overview, or elsewhere on the cover. With things being so obvious, I've never felt the urge to deprive the database of one of it's most important crew credits.

I understand that this may be a bit easier to dismiss as "we don't use this" when you've only seen this on one or two occasions. But when you've got dozens of shows where it's perfectly clear who the writer is, it becomes a bit harder to just throw those credits away. Especially as these are not a few isolated cases, but there are literally hundreds of shows employing "By" as the sole writer credit.
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