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Variable Aspect Ratios
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorSpikyCactus
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Hello everyone.

What's the preferred way for us to submit contributions for DVDs in which the aspect ratio changes?

I’m in the process of auditing a music DVD.  It has 15 chapters (songs), which all play consecutively and automatically if I run the DVD in the normal way; each song can also be selected individually via the menus.  At least four aspect ratios are used, two of them a lot, as it’s basically a compilation of videos and live footage recorded at different times.  It’s not presently in the database.  The sleeve doesn’t give the aspect ratio.  The mix includes full frame and widescreen (anamorphic).

Thanks.  Paul
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If it's a Music DVD with a mix of full frame and widescreen (anamorphic) content, then I've always seen these submitted with both Full Frame and Widescreen/16x9 Enhanced both ticked.

The Brainstorm Blu-ray is a good recent example of a full movie with varying aspect ratios. It lists 2.40:1 on the back cover, which is accurate for perhaps half or more of the film. But, the movie switches to a 1.66:1 ratio for parts of the movie. This was the way the film was originally released in theaters.
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Thank you.

I thought I might do it that way, but doing so still leaves the issue of which of the widescreen aspect ratios to use, as the database will only accept one; I guess the one that's used the most might be the most appropriate? 

Also, doing it like that makes it look like there're two different versions of the recording available, a widescreen one and a full-frame one, as this is how the information would be shown in that case, which is not especially uncommon with DVDs.  (Maybe the problem here is my own assumption and expectation of what information presented like this means?)

Paul
Do you ever find yourself striving for perfection with an almost worthless attempt at it?  Guttermouth "Lemon Water".  Also, I include in my Profiler database VHS tapes, audio DVDs, audio books (digital, cassette and CD), video games (digital, DVD and CD) and 'enhanced' CDs with video tracks on them, as well as films and TV I've bought digitally.  So I'm an anarchist, deal with it.  Just be thankful I don't include most of my records and CDs etc in it too; don't think I haven't been tempted...
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKatatonia
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Yeah, it's a hazy issue. The rules aren't really clear on such odd instances with multiple changing aspect ratios of a main feature itself.

I can see the points of either method of entering it... and I don't know of any consensus.

With the Brainstorm Blu-ray I mentioned, it's entered as 2.40:1 as the back cover states. And really there's no way to enter it in the program that the film often switches widescreen aspect ratios drastically on the fly. I thought something was wrong with the Blu-ray until I learned that's the way it was intended, so I could see such additional info as being useful in the program.
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This is a relatively new problem,which is why its not dealt with effectively yet. Your ar should be the one listed on the cover if there is one. That would be the hard data from the distributor. It seems to stem from the advent if IMAX presentations which usually mixed, anything shot in max is 1.66 while other parts would be in whatever standard ar was used. This will no doubt be addressed down the road, but right now we have quandry since Hollywood has started something new again and we have to catch up. There are not a large number of these out there...yet.

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