Good Day, Sirs,

if an actor is credited, but not in the standard film credits at the end, is he then Uncredited?

Love, bbbbb

How about, for once, explaining the whole problem and provide a specific example/profile where this is an issue.  This will save a lot of back-and-forth only to have you come back with more information that changes the whole question.

Quoting tweeter:

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How about, for once, explaining the whole problem and provide a specific example/profile where this is an issue.  This will save a lot of back-and-forth only to have you come back with more information that changes the whole question.

It's a 2011 movie with your usual standard film credits in the end. But before the standard credits are pages with some actor's names, including one name that is missing in the standard film credits, without an associated role. The Rules tell us to take the actor information from the end credits only, if a film has standard credits. And to enter actors credited elsewhere only, if a film has no end credits. Then I'm unsure about "exactly the same order credited", for I would have to add this actor without a role before the, apart from that, complete standard film credits. So I asked the initial question to prepare for the inevitable "no" votes ("no" votes because I added the actor, "no" votes because I didn't add the actor, ...).

Quoting bbbbb:

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It's a 2011 movie with your usual standard film credits in the end. But before the standard credits are pages with some actor's names, including one name that is missing in the standard film credits, without an associated role. The Rules tell us to take the actor information from the end credits only, if a film has standard credits. And to enter actors credited elsewhere only, if a film has no end credits. Then I'm unsure about "exactly the same order credited", for I would have to add this actor without a role before the, apart from that, complete standard film credits. So I asked the initial question to prepare for the inevitable "no" votes ("no" votes because I added the actor, "no" votes because I didn't add the actor, ...).

Without knowing the specifics of how those film credits appear, it doesn't really sound like standard end credits from what you're describing.

If an Actor is credited on a page(s) predating the standard end credits, then they are credited in the film – even if it lists no associated role. Sometimes there will be Actor pages/screens with their credit but no roles shown, and then the end credits will play with what looks like the other standard cast. I like to just call them pre-end credits. Is that what you mean?

I would probably treat it as the rules specifiy to add any actors who only appear in the opening credits, but not in the end credits... list them first before all others. Otherwise, I don't know where you'd list them.

As for the missing role, the rules allow one to be added if verified from the film itself or from another documented source.

The only part of the rule I don't like is when someone is credited in the opening, but not the end credits, you're supposed to put the opening credit only name first on the cast list. Take that to the back of the credits and I'd love it, cuz it's rarely a major star listed this way (besides old films and TV shows).