I've stayed away from submitting cast for Eastern movies for the following 10 pages of reasons....

Thank you.

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For the purposes of Profiler, subtitles are as good as English credits...

I think that was the core of my question really.


Quoting samuelrichardscott:

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I've stayed away from submitting cast for Eastern movies for the following 10 pages of reasons....

Be brave!  You are a Jedi Master of BY contributions after all!

Quoting samuelrichardscott:

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I'm actually disappointed in the lack of discussion on this one.

I think that, for the most part, those of us who doen't collecte Eastern films, have decided to stay out of these discussions as we don't have the required expertise and it really doesn't have an impact on us...of course, it could be that it's just the weekend and people are busy having fun. 

Since I speak/read Japanese, I thought it worthwhile to add my opinion.

We're talking about discs that have all Japanese credits (or other Asian credits), with subtitles for those credits in English, right?

First of all, it's unfair to expect everyone to speak all Asian languages. As such, I would accept subtitles as credits.

However, if later down the line someone comes along that does read that language and submits a modified credit list based on the actual credits, I would expect that to take precedence over the former


Random example: Goemon (Japanese movie - Funimation release)
1. MadMartian comes along and submits credits taken from subtitles > everyone approves
2. some time later I come along and romanize the Japanese credits, correcting names and adding more credits that were not in the subtitles > everyone approves

That way, everyone has a chance to submits credits and whenever possible, the original credits take precedence over the subtitles. I realize romanized credits need to be taken on faith as very few people can verify that, but in the end when we vote for credits, don't we already often vote on faith instead of rechecking every comma and accent?


That seems to be the ideal to me but unfortunately, that is not how things work right now. Some time ago I submitted a much more complete (and correct!) credit for Ghost in the Shell. Because one name was misspelled in the subtitled credits, my submission was denied: everyone taking the subtitles for reference (even though in that case, they were incorrect)

That's a pity .... especially since a lot of subtitles are incorrect and incomplete, especially for FUNimation releases. At one point I even saw in the subtitles a credited name that was completely wrong ... I don't mean one letter, I mean the enter name was wrong as the translator took the wrong pronunciation for the character that make up that persons name. That's not just me talking, but also that actors official website as well as my better half (who is a Japanese native)

But again, submitting such corrects is pointless as everyone goes back to the subtitles and votes No to my corrections. So for the past year or so, I keep those changes local. That's just the way the system is 

Quoting samuelrichardscott:

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I'm actually disappointed in the lack of discussion on this one.

All the people who used to care have given up on the topic. As you hinted at yourself, the 10+ pages discussions were rarely given a chance to go anywhere.