I've noticed when I graph my collection by first genre about 10% come up as "Television".  A friend with a larger collection has a similar proportion.

It would be possible to make a case that Television is not even a genre but I can see that flagging a particular item TV is useful and unless tags are up/downloaded it is difficult to see how you could do this.  However, I can see almost no circumstances in which Television should be the first tag given that the tagging order has significance.  Some multi-season shows have TV as the first tag only in some seasons and therefore don't sort correctly by genre.

I will be correcting my database locally and locking the changed genre fields.  However, contribution rules prohibit simple re-ordering within a category so I can't submit them and TBH I can understand why the reviewers would not want several hundred genre updates so I'm simply submitting an appeal to contributors not to put Television first and to change this if you happen to be updating such a title for some other reason.

You have to understand not everyone sees it the same way as you do. Some of us sees it as it is a Television release first and foremost. So as long as Invelos wants it treated as a genre there is those of us that believe it does indeed belong in the first field as it is a TV release more so then anything else. At this point Invelos seems to want us to look at Television as a genre... so that is what I do. So personally... without Invelos telling me otherwise... I will always list television first.

Now what would I like to see happen? Give Television/Theatrical/Direct to Video (and whatever else that may be needed) it's own field. So that Television isn't considered a genre at all. That in my opinion would be ideal. And hopefully something we will see before too long.

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Agreed. Locally, I also move Television to last place in genres (same by the way with Classic).

I don't see it that way. If it is a Television Movie (the way I always seen it written)... it is still IMHO Television first and foremost.

like anything else... some I already know. Some I have to look up. But usually what I need to determine is if it is a TV Movie or Direct to DVD. It is a rare thing if I don't already know it is a theatrical release.

I'm with Pete on this one. I always put Television in first place in my genres, largely because I want to know how many tv shows/films I have in my collection; but also because I think it is correct from an accuracy point of view.

This discussion is why genres are considered so subjective and, in my opinion, should be a local-only field.

Fortunately when you change a profile genres in your local, it automatically locks that field.

In my local I have moved television to a lower slot, as I do with any of (what I consider) format type genres (animation, anime, musical).  In my opinion there are "primary" genres, "secondary" genres and "format" genres.  And for me, the format genres go last. 

But I never submit those sorts of changes.  Genre's too subjective (as we see above).

I'm with Pete though, a new field to indicate release (television, theatre, direct-to-video) would be great.  You would have to be able to filter with it for it to be of use, though.

Made for TV movies are made different, with commercial breaks in mind and content that can aired, so they are different than real or DTV (or cable even) movies.

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If you have a movie (on DVD, which we are collecting after all), do you need to research whether it was made for the theater, for TV, directly for DVD, or otherwise? Or is that somehow immediately obvious?

It's not always obvious as to what is or isn't TV. Dead giveaways are network names in the studio credits, no full cast list in end credits (main stars usually won't have roles, just their names in opening credits. Co-stars will be in end, usually under "also starring" banners).
IMDB is actaully pretty good at tagging TV or not, but always double check with TV.com or just google search and you can find out pretty quick.