Dear All

Where do sound credits start and end?  This is important in terms of the Sound Mixer credit, which appears to rely on a determination of this to inform how to correctly submit this role to the database.

Here’s a nice example:




How should Sound Mixer Petur Hliddal be audited?  He’s the first sound credit given in the end credits, so is he inside or outside the sound credits in this case?  Should he be contributed as:

Production Sound Mixer (as he’s listed outside the sound credits)
Sound Re-recording Mixer (as he’s not listed outside the sound credits)
Nothing (as he’s not listed outside the sound credits but the Rules say “Sound Mixing” not “Sound Mixer” in the Credited As column for the ”Sound Re-recording Mixer”)
Something Else

As well as this affecting him, it also affects two sound recordist credits, which get included or excluded, depending on how this Sound Mixer credit is treated.  There are no other sound mixer credits for this film but there are two sound re-recording mixer ones in a later part of the end credits.  A bit of a look through the database indicates that Petur Hliddal is almost always submitted as a Production Sound Mixer.

This is taken from Edward Scissorhands 5039036003865.

At present he’s in the database as Production Sound Mixer, which suggests the first option above.

I won’t actually be contributing this particular audit as my copy of this DVD is a re-release, with a totally different cover and lots of changes to some of the other details, but this is a question I’ve asked myself before and this is a good example.

In my mind, the question hinges on whether the first sound credit in a list of sound credits can be considered as inside the sound credits, and (in this case) are the boom man and the cablemen part of the sound credits?

Thanks.  Paul

The nearest thing i find to a constant among the consistently variable crew credits is that the Production Sound Mixer credit is followed by the Boom Man.

So this Sound Mixer credit is a Production Sound Mixer.

Besides which there are already a couple of Sound Re-recording Mixers (Maslow/Kastner) listed later in the credits.

Quoting tweeter:

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The nearest thing i find to a constant among the consistently variable crew credits is that the Production Sound Mixer credit is followed by the Boom Man.

So this Sound Mixer credit is a Production Sound Mixer.

Besides which there are already a couple of Sound Re-recording Mixers (Maslow/Kastner) listed later in the credits.

This has been my experience as well.  If the credit is followed by the Boom Man, then it is PSM.

In many (most?) cases the Production sound credits (PSM, Boom, etc.) are not adjacent to the Post-production (Editors, Re-recording Mixers, etc.) sound credits.  In the example you selected they do happen to be adjacent.

That proximity doesn't automatically mean a Sound Mixer is not the PSM.  In the context of all the sound credits it is obvious to me in this case (because others were explicitly credited as Re-recording Mixers) that the Sound Mixer is the PSM.

I've run across Sound Mixing credits where i couldn't tell if it was a PSM or Re-recording Mixer and the distance between credits didn't help decide things (i find it rarely is useful).  If i don't know which is right i don't submit the credit.