There is some debate with a UK profile for Tron Legacy.

The opening credits of the film simply use the title: TRON

However, in the end credits this is shown:
Walt Disney Pictures presents
Jeff Bridges
Tron Legacy
A Sean Bailey production

As far as I am concerned the original title/modified title rule applies and the opening credits name of TRON is what should be used in the Original Title field.

However, a current contribution is removing it.

Obviously, I know that the film's title is Tron Legacy. It's on the box art and in the end credits.
But, I have to go with the opening credits which clearly say only TRON.

What's everyone else's thoughts?

Should the opening or end credits be used to determine original title?

I know the English speak the original English (and there's still the debate regarding the colonies ), but technically the UK is a foreign country to the US.

One could reasonably invoke the foreign country clause:

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Foreign Films: The Original Title field will contain the original title for the main feature in the country of origin.

which would make any argument regarding the on-screen title null and void.

If this ends up with "Tron" being the Original Title for "Tron: Legacy" it will take me days to stop laughing.

For a better understanding of the problem:
Is the title at the beginning really displayed within the credits, or is it more like "xyz studios present TRON" and no other credits are given?
Means: Do the usual suspects for opening credits (Director, Authors, Main Cast, etc) appear too, or ist it only the title?

I ask because if it's only the title I for one wouldn't call this credits.

EDIT: ateo357 already answered my question.
So since the rules demand to take the Original Title from the credits and a title alone can never be called "credits" (This requires the mentioning of someone credited), but is simply an "Opening Sequence", the OT is obviously "Tron: Legacy". Because THIS and nothing else is what we get from the credits.

Quoting DJ Doena:

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I know the English speak the original English (and there's still the debate regarding the colonies ), but technically the UK is a foreign country to the US.

One could reasonably invoke the foreign country clause:

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Foreign Films: The Original Title field will contain the original title for the main feature in the country of origin.

which would make any argument regarding the on-screen title null and void.

^This.

Quoting TheMadMartian:

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Wait, are we talking about the sequal?  I misunderstood.  The sequal is Tron: Legacy, there is no original title.  Needless to say, I changed my vote. 

Thank You.

To clarify - in the opening sequence of the film there is no mention of actors/crew etc. There is simply a great big graphic saying TRON.

In the end credits, where the cast/crew are listed, the full title of the film is given.

Also, don't misunderstand me, I am completely aware that this film is actually called Tron Legacy - but for me, that doesn't change the fact that in the opening sequence of the film only TRON is shown.

Every time, the modified title has been used to add Original Title, it is always the opening credits that are used to determine the title.

Now, having said all that, I really don't care. I submitted this original profile with the original title present, as I understood the rules to require it. I will leave my NO vote as I disagree with the removal; but if it does get removed this will not result in a ping-pong situation.

Quoting TheMadMartian:

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"For profiles which have an alternate title displayed on the cover, use the title from the film's credits."  Well, in this case, there is no alternate title displayed on the cover as the title on the cover is the original theatrical title.  It is the title in the opening credits that seems to be an alternate title and the rules do not require us to use that title.

Well, I've obviously never understood this particular rule.

As far as I understood it: if the title on the box is different from the title in the film credits then the title in the film credits should go in the Original Title field; as the example in the rules shows: FILM CREDITS: There's Something About Mary, BOX: There's Something More About Mary.

So how is this case different? FILM CREDITS: Tron, BOX: Tron Legacy.

You seem to be stating that the credits are the 'alternate title' and the box is correct - which seems to be the exact opposite of the what the rules are saying. Have I misunderstood you?

Quoting Pantheon:

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Quoting TheMadMartian:

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"For profiles which have an alternate title displayed on the cover, use the title from the film's credits."  Well, in this case, there is no alternate title displayed on the cover as the title on the cover is the original theatrical title.  It is the title in the opening credits that seems to be an alternate title and the rules do not require us to use that title.

Well, I've obviously never understood this particular rule.

As far as I understood it: if the title on the box is different from the title in the film credits then the title in the film credits should go in the Original Title field; as the example in the rules shows: FILM CREDITS: There's Something About Mary, BOX: There's Something More About Mary.

So how is this case different? FILM CREDITS: Tron, BOX: Tron Legacy.

You seem to be stating that the credits are the 'alternate title' and the box is correct - which seems to be the exact opposite of the what the rules are saying. Have I misunderstood you?

This part of the rule would apply if it is a release within the CoO.

So if it would be a US release Tron would be correct. (and all other localities also had to use it as original title)