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Link to Anamorphic / Letterbox / Windowbox listing rules?
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I know this has been discussed before, but I would appreciate the link to the definitive thread for resolving some listing issues I'm having.

Today I received "Suckers" (690445006127), which is purportedly an anamorphic transfer. Fine.

But when I play it on the computer, I get a 4:3 box within which the movie image is letterboxed. The image fits east and west, but there are black bars above and below.

When I put it in my Blu-Ray player, the same DVD comes up with black bars on all sides -- something I've seen referred to as window boxing.

The "just scan" feature of the data-stream for this DVD just isn't working as far as the player is concerned, and if I want the image to fit left and right, I have to do some extra fiddling.

This doesn't happen with modern anamorphic titles on my player or on my computer. My LCD TV has black bars over and under on a 2.35:1 transfer but it automatically fits the screen. On the computer, PowerDVD in window mode snaps the window border tightly around all sides, unlike "Suckers".

So I'm looking for the thread that might explain how I indicate these various conditions for the technical aspect of the DVD -- if we do that at all.
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Not sure where the thread is, but what you described is definitly a non-anamorphic widescreen version. No matter what the cover says, it's not 16X9 enhanced. This happens more than you might think, also many covers have said 5.1 audio but only have 2.0.

This is why we go by what the disc specs really are, not what covers say for contributions.
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Thanks. So part of the question was, once you've figured out what you really have, how / where is that indicated?

What possible combinations of widescreen, full frame, etc., are there?
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It's enough to know that there are anamorphic and non-anamorphic widescreen. Widescreen for our purposes means any release wider than 1.33:1. (or 1.37:1).

As for the actual screen ratio, I would go with what the box says, unless you can show that it is wrong by measuring it with a screen cap. In most cases, using one of the default ratios in the drop down menu should be sufficient. There is no point in making minor "corrections" that only differs by a few fractions.
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One of the threads about anamorphic:

http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=516736&PageNum=1

I've taken this one, because it has some good pic in it and two good links to explanations.

Sadly the linkt to the pdf on page 2 is outdated, but I think it was a copy of this one:
http://udel.edu/~grim/DVD/anamorphic_ultimate_guide.pdf

Edit: Link on page 3 is working. (Should have seen this  )
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Film_and_video_technology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_matte

There's a ton of good info on the subject here as well, and the PDF is an excellent read.

I have to disagree with KinoNiki on this however, since the way the image was captured, processed and finally presented on the screen directly impacts my viewing experience, as compared to higgling questions about the listing sequence of marketing and distribution companies.
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Quoting lasitter:
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I have to disagree with KinoNiki on this however, since the way the image was captured, processed and finally presented on the screen directly impacts my viewing experience, as compared to higgling questions about the listing sequence of marketing and distribution companies.


Disagree about what exactly? You may retain any info you wish for your local but when contributing we follow the rules, not personal preference.
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