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| Registered: April 3, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,998 |
| | Posted: | | | | Before i contribute this just want to check it is correct, in the film American Werewolf in London there are the credits for Kermit the Frog and Miss Piggy now locally i have this entered as Quote:
Jim Henson [Kermit the Frog] as Himself (puppeteer) (Voice)
Frank Oz [Miss Piggy] as Herself (puppeteer) (Voice) is this the correct way to contribute this or should it be kept local only, I'm only asking because checking the CLT there is only 1 profile that has been contributed in this way and thats made me doubt myself that this is the right way to do it  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would have no problem with that contribution...though I am concerned about the 'puppeteer' portion. I only add that when it is credited that way and, in this case, I think it looks odd to have Kermit the Frog listed as a puppeteer. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | From here:Quote:
The episode of "The Muppet Show" (1976) playing on TV during David's nightmare sequence is indeed a real episode but the portion shown on TV was never shown in the US. This is why it has been considered a fake episode and why Miss Piggy and Kermit are credited. So if this is correct and Kermit puppeteer was always Jim Henson/Miss Piggy puppeteer was always Frank Oz: Seems to be correct. If Piggy and Kermit have been puppeteered sometimes by someone else, it might get hard to really say it have been these two in this case. Edit: Does the word puppeteered exist?  | | | | Last edited: by VirusPil |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
I would have no problem with that contribution...though I am concerned about the 'puppeteer' portion. I only add that when it is credited that way and, in this case, I think it looks odd to have Kermit the Frog listed as a puppeteer. While I don't feel it looks right in this case... the rules do say to add it to puppeteer roles... Quote:
If puppeteers are included in the end credits include them and append (puppeteer) at the end of the role. So it should always be added to puppeteer roles according to the rules. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,733 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ninehours: Quote:
is this the correct way to contribute this Yes. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
Quoting TheMadMartian:
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I would have no problem with that contribution...though I am concerned about the 'puppeteer' portion. I only add that when it is credited that way and, in this case, I think it looks odd to have Kermit the Frog listed as a puppeteer.
While I don't feel it looks right in this case... the rules do say to add it to puppeteer roles...
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If puppeteers are included in the end credits include them and append (puppeteer) at the end of the role.
So it should always be added to puppeteer roles according to the rules. I understand that, but the puppeteer isn't included in the end credits...the puppet is. Nowhere, in the credits, are Jim Henson or Frank Oz mentioned. That is why I am a bit 'iffy' on using it. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think I might have misunderstood what you were saying Martian... When you said...
"I only add that when it is credited that way "
I thought you meant the only time you use (puppeteer) is when you actually see (puppeteer) in the credits. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
I think I might have misunderstood what you were saying Martian... When you said...
"I only add that when it is credited that way "
I thought you meant the only time you use (puppeteer) is when you actually see (puppeteer) in the credits. Yea, I am fighting a bit of a cold and didn't word my reply properly. Sorry for the confusion. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | no problems  | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: June 12, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | The credits are for Kermit & Piggy...neither of whom is a puppeteer. No one working on the film hired a puppeteer. They use a deleted scene from a TV show. The puppeteer tag doesn't belong on these credits.
And the Voice tag is totally wrong because Kermit & Piggy are seen on screen. Therefore is is NOT a voice-only credit. | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! | | | | Last edited: by tweeter |
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| Registered: April 3, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,998 |
| | Posted: | | | | But the credit isn't for Kermit or Miss Piggy the credit is for Frank Oz and Jim Henson who are "Credited As" Kermit and Miss Piggy therefor the puppeteer and voice tags apply to them, after all Kermit and Piggy are just puppets and without a puppeteer moving them and supplying the voice would just lay there and do nothing (it can't move and talk for itself) | | | | Last edited: by ninehours |
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| Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | I just voted no saying keep the names and voice tags as they are the voices, but not the puppeteer tag. I was iffy even voting on it as it's been a while since I've seen the film, and I don't recall the scene with them. I assume it's more than background on a TV if they are credited, although with Landis the credits could be in-jokes themselves.  If my vote is that wrong I'll change it, sounds like it might be. |
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| Registered: April 3, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,998 |
| | Posted: | | | | Don't worry about it i have re-contributed removing the (puppeteer) and Voice tag |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bigdaddyhorse: Quote:
I just voted no saying keep the names and voice tags as they are the voices, but not the puppeteer tag. I was iffy even voting on it as it's been a while since I've seen the film, and I don't recall the scene with them. I assume it's more than background on a TV if they are credited, although with Landis the credits could be in-jokes themselves. Actually, that is exactly what it is...in the dream sequence, the family is shown watching an episode of The Muppet Show. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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