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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorSpikyCactus
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Here’s a little question.

I’ve bought an audio CD, with a bonus DVD included with it as part of a “Deluxe Edition”.  (I appreciate that I should only contribute the details relating to the DVD.)

When I added the UPC to Profiler, it downloaded the details from a previous contribution.  However, the cover art is a bit different, although the UPC is the same.  As far as I can tell, the one I downloaded is for a UK version (as it carries a UK rating), whilst the version I have is somewhat vague about its origins (although the security sticker on it did say packaged in the USA/Mexico).  It’s a very recently released CD/DVD and as far as I can tell it was released worldwide on the same day.  I'm as sure as I can be that it's not a pirated copy.

So basically, when you have two releases with the same UPC, the same Disc ID (I've checked), the same content (as far as I can tell) and what appear to be the same release date, but different covers, which goes into the online database?  Is it first come first served, or should I contribute my version by name, or am I missing some subtlety of Profiler's abilities or simply missing the point entirely ?

Thanks!  Paul
Do you ever find yourself striving for perfection with an almost worthless attempt at it?  Guttermouth "Lemon Water".  Also, I include in my Profiler database VHS tapes, audio DVDs, audio books (digital, cassette and CD), video games (digital, DVD and CD) and 'enhanced' CDs with video tracks on them, as well as films and TV I've bought digitally.  So I'm an anarchist, deal with it.  Just be thankful I don't include most of my records and CDs etc in it too; don't think I haven't been tempted...
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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So, here's a question for you and others. WHY are people so afraid to talk about specific information so that answers can be properly researched and perhaps provided. Instead it's always in general terms with no specifics , UPC or anything. How are we supposed to help people.? Are you afraid that if you provide specific information that someone will go and Contribute before you can, I mean what's deal here? If you have a question provide info, don't put up generalities and expect us to be able to help much. I have seen this for years and years and never understood it.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorSpikyCactus
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Quoting Winston Smith:
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So, here's a question for you and others. WHY are people so afraid to talk about specific information so that answers can be properly researched and perhaps provided. Instead it's always in general terms with no specifics , UPC or anything. How are we supposed to help people.? Are you afraid that if you provide specific information that someone will go and Contribute before you can, I mean what's deal here? If you have a question provide info, don't put up generalities and expect us to be able to help much. I have seen this for years and years and never understood it.


Do you hang about with a lot of politicians by any chance?

I can’t say why others ask things without giving the specific details, but in this case I did because I thought a more generic answer might be more useful to more people in general, than a very specific one.  If there’s a Rule or in lieu of one a general consensus, then the specifics shouldn’t really matter.  Either that or I’ve got a case of First Officer Syndrome*.

Anyway, if it’s helpful its:

UPC:  886978019721
Title:  Avril Lavigne: Goodbye Lullaby

The difference in the cover art is:

Front:  The absence of the 12 certificate roundel on my copy.
Rear:  The absence of the certificate roundel and its corresponding certificate information box, Sony logo, copy protection information box, region information an NTSC description.  There is an additional anti-piracy logo and the web site addresses are in a different place.  That’s it.

Is there anything else that you feel it might be useful to know?

And no, I’m not bothered in the least if I’m not the first to contribute something; (quite the opposite in fact as it saves my time).  If I was I’d be a very disappointed and sad individual, considering how rarely that happens.

*First Office Syndrome.  How often in Star Trek does the Captain on the ship ask the First Officer on the planet for details of what’s going on, only to be told, “you better come down here and have a look” or words to that effect?  I’m sure that must be quite maddening.
Do you ever find yourself striving for perfection with an almost worthless attempt at it?  Guttermouth "Lemon Water".  Also, I include in my Profiler database VHS tapes, audio DVDs, audio books (digital, cassette and CD), video games (digital, DVD and CD) and 'enhanced' CDs with video tracks on them, as well as films and TV I've bought digitally.  So I'm an anarchist, deal with it.  Just be thankful I don't include most of my records and CDs etc in it too; don't think I haven't been tempted...
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
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Maybe I am off base a bit here... but if the current one is for UK release (has UK Rating)... shouldn't it be in the UK locality and the one you have be right for the US locality. If the cover of the UK release is on the US locality... then it should be fixed with the correct cover.

Or am I confused somewhere along the line?
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Maybe I am off base a bit here... but if the current one is for UK release (has UK Rating)... shouldn't it be in the UK locality and the one you have be right for the US locality. If the cover of the UK release is on the US locality... then it should be fixed with the correct cover.

Or am I confused somewhere along the line?


This was also my first thought. But it wouldn't be the first time I have an understanding problem. 

Edit: Seems to be sold also in Germany with the same UPC/EAN but different cover. So maybe really a locality thing.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCubbyUps
Registered: March 14, 2007
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It sounds more like you have the wrong locality from the one that you own

You live in England and got a hold of a US copy, thus the differences noted.

I suggest change the locality of the profile you've already downloaded and see if you can then download the U.S. profile (assuming that they have the same UPC#)

If there is no U.S. profile in the database already then you can always upload the U.S. profile yourself with the scans.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorSpikyCactus
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It sounds more like you have the wrong locality from the one that you own

You live in England and got a hold of a US copy, thus the differences noted.

I suggest change the locality of the profile you've already downloaded and see if you can then download the U.S. profile (assuming that they have the same UPC#)

If there is no U.S. profile in the database already then you can always upload the U.S. profile yourself with the scans.


The existing contribution has the UK as its locality, so would seem to be a correct match for the cover.

Yes, perhaps I should make a new contribution with the locality set to the United States and a new cover scan, as there isn't one like this in the database at present.  (I think there may be a couple of other details in the current contribution that aren't accurate too, so these may need changing.)

Thank you everyone, that's very helpful to me. 
Do you ever find yourself striving for perfection with an almost worthless attempt at it?  Guttermouth "Lemon Water".  Also, I include in my Profiler database VHS tapes, audio DVDs, audio books (digital, cassette and CD), video games (digital, DVD and CD) and 'enhanced' CDs with video tracks on them, as well as films and TV I've bought digitally.  So I'm an anarchist, deal with it.  Just be thankful I don't include most of my records and CDs etc in it too; don't think I haven't been tempted...
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorMikaLove
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It's definitely a locality thing. However you need to be sure of which cover goes for which locality and of course which locality your copy is from.
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