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| Registered: March 19, 2007 |  Posts: 700 |
| | Posted: | | | | Just played my Walt Disney Bambi Blu-ray and is about to contribute the Norwegian profile for this.
When playing this feature I need to set my tv to 16:9 anamorph to get the picture correct, but inside DVD Profiler this is not possible to tick for Blu-ray, and if I remember correct someone say this is not an option in Blu-Ray at all... now I am confused
I use my old tv with analoge s-vhs cable for thisone, is it with HDMI the 16:9 is not needed?? not familiar with the settings for my Projector with HDMI as I only use blu on that and it is set to "full" all time...
Any comment? | | | | We are all at the same age, only at different time... |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | Technically all Blu-rays are native 16:9, there's no anamorphic tweaking involved. That was only needed to squeeze a 16:9 image into the 4:3 frame area of DVD.
Bambi however was filmed in 1.33:1 (or possibly 1.37:1) and since it's the film aspect ratio we're after that's what should go into the profile. So no anamorphic and no widescreen for this one. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 | | | | Last edited: by Nexus the Sixth |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,217 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting oleops: Quote:
...and if I remember correct someone say this is not an option in Blu-Ray at all... That could have been me, unfortunately(!) I was wrong, theoretically anamorphic would be possible ( see Wikipedia) but we have yet to see such an ugly monster. And I still stand by my words: for a pixel-based medium the anamorphic-crutch is totally worthless. Quote:
I use my old tv with analoge s-vhs cable for thisone, is it with HDMI the 16:9 is not needed?? Most likely there's the rub. S-Video connections are from the good old 4:3 days and thus the TV is only expecting SD on this input. So I imagine the BD-Player gives the picture a squeeze in hope that the TV can undo with its anamorphic switch. cya, Mithi | | | | Mithi's little XSLT tinkering - the power of XML --- DVD-Profiler Mini-Wiki |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | I don't have Bambi so don't know about this one, but I have seen other 1.33 releases on blu-ray which have been pillar-boxed to fit the HD screen. If that's the case for Bambi then the best way to profile it is to pick 1.33:1 as the aspect ratio and also tick the "widescreen" box (as the full image including the black bars on the sides is 16:9). | | | | Last edited: by northbloke |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Posts: 700 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mithi: Quote:
Most likely there's the rub. S-Video connections are from the good old 4:3 days and thus the TV is only expecting SD on this input. So I imagine the BD-Player gives the picture a squeeze in hope that the TV can undo with its anamorphic switch.
cya, Mithi Ofcourse...  The player was set for 16:9 output of 4:3 picture, no doubt the tv must convert back again... This is an old player I have not used for long time I put up in my livingroom for make profiling more easy and forget to look into menus... everything solved.. Should check more before post next time.. Thanks for everybody answer. | | | | We are all at the same age, only at different time... |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
I don't have Bambi so don't know about this one, but I have seen other 1.33 releases on blu-ray which have been pillar-boxed to fit the HD screen. If that's the case for Bambi then the best way to profile it is to pick 1.33:1 as the aspect ratio and also tick the "widescreen" box (as the full image including the black bars on the sides is 16:9). That would be incorrect and against the contribution rules as it is not "presented" in widescreen. The media carrier's native resolution is not something we need to establish (again) in the video format field. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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| Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting KinoNiki: Quote:
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I don't have Bambi so don't know about this one, but I have seen other 1.33 releases on blu-ray which have been pillar-boxed to fit the HD screen. If that's the case for Bambi then the best way to profile it is to pick 1.33:1 as the aspect ratio and also tick the "widescreen" box (as the full image including the black bars on the sides is 16:9).
That would be incorrect and against the contribution rules as it is not "presented" in widescreen. The media carrier's native resolution is not something we need to establish (again) in the video format field. I could argue either side of this but kinda like the widescreen 1.33. It would let me know if I need to set my TV to 4X3 before viewing or not.  I also thought BD's with 4X3 picture would be window-boxed anyway, I keep seeing bonus features set-up like that. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | Films made in 1.33:1 on Blu-ray are not window-boxed, they are pillar-framed. Just like films wider than 16x9 (1.78:1) are still letter-boxed. In either case there should be no reason to change your TV settings, unless you want to zoom or stretch the image unnaturally to fill the entire screen, but that's not something I would recommend.
Bonus features in SD might be window-boxed on Blu-ray if they've been carried over from DVD, but we don't enter the aspect ratio of bonus features except in rare cases with bonus films that receive their own profiles. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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| Registered: June 21, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting KinoNiki: Quote:
Films made in 1.33:1 on Blu-ray are not window-boxed, they are pillar-framed. Just like films wider than 16x9 (1.78:1) are still letter-boxed. In either case there should be no reason to change your TV settings, unless you want to zoom or stretch the image unnaturally to fill the entire screen, but that's not something I would recommend.
I always heard this called window-boxed, or maybe that's what non anamorphic WS dvds are when they have bars on all 4 sides. I gaurantee I'll end calling it 'piller-boxed' next time.  | | | | Last edited: by bigdaddyhorse |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | Yes, that's what non-anamorphic widescreen would look like on a widescreen set. But the films are still only letterboxed on the DVD, just not anamorphic. On a 4x3 TV they would look perfectly normal. There have been a few window-boxed DVDs encoded with black bars on all four sides, I know Criterion had some, and they were NOT popular since people with zero overscan would always see the bars. (Not to mention it's a waste of the already low resolution of DVD.) | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,394 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bigdaddyhorse: Quote:
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Films made in 1.33:1 on Blu-ray are not window-boxed, they are pillar-framed. Just like films wider than 16x9 (1.78:1) are still letter-boxed. In either case there should be no reason to change your TV settings, unless you want to zoom or stretch the image unnaturally to fill the entire screen, but that's not something I would recommend.
I always heard this called window-boxed, or maybe that's what non anamorphic WS dvds are when they have bars on all 4 sides. I gaurantee I'll end calling it 'piller-boxed' next time. That's pillar with an "a" not piller witn an "e" BTW. | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
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| Registered: June 21, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting kdh1949: Quote:
That's pillar with an "a" not piller witn an "e" BTW. See, it just don't work for me!  |
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