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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDarknite
Registered: June 8, 2007
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I have a contrabution up for vote and have so far two people voting no, and not for what I am submitting but for something I didn't even change and that maybe needs changing.
21 yes vote, 2 no votes. For the 2 no vote I believe  this "No" vote is considered an abuse of the voting privilege
The contrabution in question is Bambi the Blu-ray combo. I am adding,
Making this a combo
Adding slip case
Reording Genres
Adding Studio per credits, RKO is not listed
Adding Features from disc
Adding Subtitles and Audio from disc
Adding overview from Back of case
Adding Child profile
Adding disc ID
Correcting Crew to match credits
and adding Cover scans
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorTracer
Registered: March 13, 2007
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I wouldn't consider the two "No" votes as an abuse.  Remember just because a contribution has "No" votes doesn't mean the screener will deny the contribution.  If I remember correctly they are voting no because the case type is wrong.  Really the easy thing is just change the case type (even though you didn't originally contribute it) and resubmit your contribution.

You already have the other data so it should be easy to recontribute and just cut and paste your previous contribution notes.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Many users don't understand that we, as users, are not forced to Contribute anymore than we want at a given time. They think you should complete the Contribution, I consider that an abuse by the voter, but also no big deal, unless they are the only voters.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKathy
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One shouldn't vote "no" on data that the contributor has not added or changed.

If the change is simple, I often add/change this additional data.

But, I often update DVDs before I give them away. I'm not going to unpack them to check on data that I did not update.

When this happens I send the "no" voters a short note asking them to change their vote since their vote has nothing to do with my contribution.

If they do not change their vote, I edit the profile and alert the screeners that the "no" votes are not relevant to my contribution.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCubbyUps
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As far as I understand it is not a contributors responsibility to correct existing errors.

Your contribution adds lots of new and valuable data into the main database. A minor existing error shouldn't be enough to get it rejected.

In my opinion the only time a NO vote should be done is when a contributor adds an error to a profile. Not because they overlooked an existing error.
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Checking the box for 'Slip Case' changes the case type section so, while I wouldn't have voted that way, I do understand the 'no' votes.
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On the other hand, DarkNite indicates that he added a slip case, which is part of a contribution of a case type. If that case type as such is incorrect, I can see why some voters would want to point that out.

Or, what MadMartian said.
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I had once a no vote because the coverscans were not so good. But he then did an own contribution with great coverscans and I did withdraw my contribution. I think you can vote no if something is not good, but it is then nice if a no voter can do it better, how he did in this case, to do an own and better contribution. That is welcome, I always accept if somebody can do it better and votes not only no and does nothing himself.

I find doing contributions a good thing. Everybody can profit then from a good database with most of there films. If I spend so much time do enter the data just for me it is nice if also others can take profit of it. Sure, it would be much easier to do all just for myself, but it is also fun to do something for others and not only me, makes me more happy than working just for me :-).

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Quoting Darknite:
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I have a contrabution up for vote and have so far two people voting no, and not for what I am submitting but for something I didn't even change and that maybe needs changing.
21 yes vote, 2 no votes. For the 2 no vote I believe  this "No" vote is considered an abuse of the voting privilege



Why is this an abuse?

They voted no, and pointed out a perceived error.  Whether or not the error is yours is irrelevant.

Once the no votes are cast, it is up to you.  Do you correct the perceived errors?  Do you PM the person and explain why they are not errors?  Do you let it slide and allow the screeners to decide if this is an improvement to what is there.  (more than likely, it will get approved, and somebody will correct the case type next)  NO BIG DEAL

This is not personal.  This is not about who does the most or the fastest.

Just decide what you are going to do.  No anger, no ill will.  I am sure that obelisk and eaglejd have no animosity.

Charlie
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I'll bet that the no votes were for reordering genres ... People here dislike that immensley.. when you do that .....
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I'll bet that the no votes were for reordering genres ... People here dislike that immensley.. when you do that .....



No, actually

This comes in an HD Slim case, not HD Keep Case...
HD Keep Case ==> HD Slim

Are the 2 no votes

Charlie
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Quoting widescreenforever:
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I'll bet that the no votes were for reordering genres ... People here dislike that immensley.. when you do that .....



No, actually

This comes in an HD Slim case, not HD Keep Case...
HD Keep Case ==> HD Slim

Are the 2 no votes

Charlie


Oh.. I didn't see that in his 'notes'  for adding .. 
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I would never vote no if something is NOT contributed and is wrong. However, once you contribute something and it's wrong, even if you didn't make the error, I'd point it out. If it's up for voting, it's up for review by the voting public.

I don't think it's something against the contributor, it's just pointing out that the information is wrong. I've had people point out errors, especially in the overview, that I've missed and it's usually not that big of a deal to quick fix the problems and resubmit.

When you contribute, you have the option of not submitting something...
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Quoting CharlieM:
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Quoting Darknite:
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I have a contrabution up for vote and have so far two people voting no, and not for what I am submitting but for something I didn't even change and that maybe needs changing.
21 yes vote, 2 no votes. For the 2 no vote I believe  this "No" vote is considered an abuse of the voting privilege



Why is this an abuse?

They voted no, and pointed out a perceived error.  Whether or not the error is yours is irrelevant.

Once the no votes are cast, it is up to you.  Do you correct the perceived errors?  Do you PM the person and explain why they are not errors?  Do you let it slide and allow the screeners to decide if this is an improvement to what is there.  (more than likely, it will get approved, and somebody will correct the case type next)  NO BIG DEAL

This is not personal.  This is not about who does the most or the fastest.

Just decide what you are going to do.  No anger, no ill will.  I am sure that obelisk and eaglejd have no animosity.

Charlie


Thank you Charlie, no ill will here, just pointing out the error and leaving it up to the contributor to correct it or not.

No biggy, I don't see what the problem is. Darknite shouldn't take it so personal. 
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Voting no because a contribution isn't complete is preposterous. All additional data is welcome and can be completed lateron by anyone at any time. As long as you didn't submit any errors, I'd consider it a voting violation from their part.
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Quoting Darknite:
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I have a contrabution up for vote and have so far two people voting no, and not for what I am submitting but for something I didn't even change and that maybe needs changing.

Just one minor point:
If you can check the box for an item there is a difference to the existing profile (Means: Change).
It really doesn't matter whether you changed it yourself or merely kept (outdated) data. If you choose to contribute this data (check the box) you confirm that the existing data is incorrect and your contribution is correct.
No problem if this is true and again no problem if it isn't. Just resubmit and simply don't check the box for Case Type this time.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
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