I'm probably reopening an old wound, but with the Rating system to differentiate between films and TV shows, do we still need a Television genre?  It doesn't do anything to define the mood or tone of a title.
It really grinds my gears when I see it listed as the first, or primary, genre.

For that matter, I'd like to get rid of the "Classic" genre myself.  What are the qualifiers for that?  If someone described Inception as an "instant classic," would that not be just cause to use the genre for that film?

It's adds value for me. Often when we want to select a movie, we filter on:
- watched: never
- genre: untick Television
That way, we only see the unwatched movies in the selection. The same is valid the other way around.

I don't mind if that data got moved somewhere in a separate field to distinguish between movies and TV series, but I definitely need to be able to filter on it. Personally, it also doesn't bother me that it's seen as a genre. In fact, I see it as a genre, like a documentary is also a genre

I think genre is one of the most interesting things about films (and music too), in that it’s a very personal thing and it’s virtually impossible to define what each genre means, yet you can normally tell instinctively what one something fits into.  Strangely, for music I can fit everything into one genera or another, but for films I can’t seem to do that; it may be that it’s easier to invent sub-genres for music than films.  Even after many years, I still find myself tinkering with the genera I use for my music, generally finding I want to split some up into sub groups when the number gets too high in one particular one.

I have a restricted set of First Genre that I try to fit every film into, which I then add to if I feel others fit a particular film too.  For me, I use Television as the First Genre for all DVDs that I feel are/were TV programmes.  If I don’t do this, my genera would become swamped with Science-Fiction, as I have lots of sci-fi TV programmes.  I want to be able to see what I feel is a more representative selection of genera when I look at my collection and the nice graphs that the software can produce, that aren’t dominated by Star Trek and Doctor Who, etc, etc.

I do personally use the Classic genera, but I’d probably not miss it if it went.  I guess I’d define it as a film that most people have heard of, even if they aren’t that into films (weird I know) or the particular film in question.

I’d be quite interested to know what local genres people have added.  Ive added B Movies, Gay, Black Comedy and Foreign (i.e. not English) to mine. 

Paul

Also, I never eat cheese.  (Vegan you see).

As a German user I'm against this proposal, but I'm also against TV as a primary genre. Perhaps a new rule (TV must not be the primary genre if other genres can be applied) would be a good thing to solve this dilemma.

Besides the fact that the US is about the only country with separate rating systems, even in the US, TV movies occasionally get an MPAA rating for whatever reason (The Hallmark production of Moby Dick, for instance). I think that TV should be eliminated as a genre and we shoudl have a new field for origins that would let you enter whether something came from TV, theaters, DTV or the Internet.

Quoting Leiterfluid:

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I'm probably reopening an old wound, but with the Rating system to differentiate between films and TV shows, do we still need a Television genre?  It doesn't do anything to define the mood or tone of a title.

Since not all countries have separate ratings for movies and TV I would prefer if Television remains as a genre so that it can be used as a filter.

I agree though, having it as a primary genre makes my toe nails curl as well. I usually move it to the last position and lock the field.

Well, we have other genres that aren't really genres, eg. animation. But I feel that they add some value, since we have no other way to identify different types of movies, unless we set up a system of tags, but those aren't contributed to the online. That said, I set my genres locally, lock them and usually never worry about the online unless I'm making a new contribution. And when I'm making a new contribution, I order genres alphabetically so Television usually ends up last.