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| Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | http://invelos.com/dvdpro/contributions/Rules.aspx?display=credits
There seems to be differences in opinion regarding the new update regarding Sound Crew.
The yellow highlighted section "Notes" reads: "Only use when there's no production sound mixing credit".
Does this pertain to only the yellow highlighted Crew member "Recordist"
Or, does that apply to all of the following Sound Crew? "Sound", "Sound Recording", "Sound Recordist", "Sound Supervisor", "Recordist", and "Recorded by"?
If there is a clarification in the forums, would you please post it. I've tried searching and think it's easier just to ask here.
Thank you. |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 555 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would say it pertains to all the roles mentioned, not just Recordist. I believe the highlighted section is just to show the latest changes, as per what the rules say here http://www.invelos.com/dvdpro/contributions/Rules.aspx?display=introduction: "The latest changes are highlighted." It just means that "Recordist" is a new addition to the credits box, and so are the Notes. | | | | Last edited: by Behemot |
| | Registered: September 30, 2008 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,805 |
| | Posted: | | | | As Behemot said, it applies to ALL of the crew listed for that particular section.
The highlighting of it is simply a way of noting it's the latest update.
"Only use when there's no production sound mixing credit" applies to all the crew roles that would fall under the role of Sound. | | | | The night is calling. And it whispers to me soflty come and play. |
|   | Corne | | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
| Registered: April 5, 2007 |  Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Behemot: Quote:
I would say it pertains to all the roles mentioned, not just Recordist. I believe the highlighted section is just to show the latest changes, as per what the rules say here http://www.invelos.com/dvdpro/contributions/Rules.aspx?display=introduction: "The latest changes are highlighted." It just means that "Recordist" is a new addition to the credits box, and so are the Notes. ^ This. I do believe that a Sound Supervisor should be added, whether there's a Production Sound Mixer credited or not. | | | | Cor | | | | Last edited: by Corne |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | This is something that a few users wanted, and got. As it stands right now, no credit that qualifies for the Profiler 'Sound' credit, is allowed when there is a production sound mixing credit...that includes 'Sound Supervisor'. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
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| | Corne | | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
| Registered: April 5, 2007 | | Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
This is something that a few users wanted, and got. As it stands right now, no credit that qualifies for the Profiler 'Sound' credit, is allowed when there is a production sound mixing credit...that includes 'Sound Supervisor'. Well, in my opinion the Sound Supervisor should be allowed. | | | | Cor | | | | Last edited: by Corne |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Corne: Quote:
Well, in my opinion it should be allowed. Whether or not it should, I have no idea as I don't really care about the sound credits, but there was a small, yet vocal group of users who, for whatever reason, felt that the 'Sound' credit wasn't needed. Ken decided to listen to them and, well, here we are. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 8,733 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Merrik: Quote:
As Behemot said, it applies to ALL of the crew listed for that particular section.
The highlighting of it is simply a way of noting it's the latest update.
"Only use when there's no production sound mixing credit" applies to all the crew roles that would fall under the role of Sound. Indeed. | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Corne: Quote:
Well, in my opinion the Sound Supervisor should be allowed. Well, IMO, the sound supervisor (post production) is closer to the sound designer than to the old fashioned sound credit (location and post production). |
| | Corne | | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
| Registered: April 5, 2007 | | Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
Quoting Corne:
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Well, in my opinion the Sound Supervisor should be allowed.
Well, IMO, the sound supervisor (post production) is closer to the sound designer than to the old fashioned sound credit (location and post production). Exactly! | | | | Cor | | | | Last edited: by Corne |
| | Registered: June 22, 2007 | | Posts: 89 |
| | Posted: | | | | In opposite to the mentioned "old fashioned" sound credits "Sound", "Sound Recording", "Sound Recordist", "Recordist", and "Recorded by" the credit "Sound Supervisor" is still in use nowadays, often in addition to the "production sound mixer" (or its equivalents). That is because a Sound Supervisor is not equal to a Production Sound Mixer! In fact he is also in charge regarding the sound post production. Regarding that, the new rule is wrong in this case. (I don't know who suggested to mention the Sound Supervisor together with the other old fashioned credits...  . Shouldn't have happened!) |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting schaumi: Quote:
(I don't know who suggested to mention the Sound Supervisor together with the other old fashioned credits... . Shouldn't have happened!) As I remember it, the Sound Supervisor credit has always been in the 'Sound' catagory so it seems, in the rush to get rid of the 'sound' credit that some users didn't want, the baby went out with the bathwater. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 8,733 |
| | Posted: | | | | For the record: the "sound" clarification really hasn't changed. Its intent was always what it still is today, only the wording of the previous note was non-exclusive, leaving the door open for some users to completely ignore it, which caused many entries for people we were never ever meant to track to get into the database. Changing the wording of that note has corrected that unfortunate situation.
As for the separate issue of "Sound Supervisor" - that indeed was always part of the "Sound" category, so if there's a problem with that, then that's where that originated, not with the aforementioned changing of the wording of the "Sound" note. A case could be made for the idea that "Sound Supervisor" really shouldn't fall under "Sound", but under "Sound Editing" or "Sound Designer". I could live with that, although I'm perfectly happy with the current situation as well. |
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