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| Registered: September 15, 2010 | | Posts: 3 |
| | Posted: | | | | Hi. I'm new here, I bought DVD Profiler recently and I'm trying to contribute with some of my dvd, most of it is brazilian profiles.
The problem is that almost all of my contribution was declined and the feedback is: "An invalid source, such as a third party database, was listed in the contribution notes. Use of a third party database is not allowed per the contribution rules.".
My sources are imdb and dvd printed specifications always, but I don't know wich one is the wrong source, or both. I tried searching the forum for a valid sources list or any other answer for my problem, but I found nothing!
I need help, I'm not a clairvoyant!
Thanks. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | IMDb is a third party database. Because they copyright and license, for a fee, their data, it is not allowed. Cast and crew, if you are going to cintribute them, must come from the actual credits of the feature on the DVD. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,432 |
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| | Registered: May 26, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,878 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting viniciusjf: Quote:
I tried searching the forum for a valid sources list or any other answer for my problem, but I found nothing! Welcome to the forum! As far as DVDProfiler is concerned, the only valid source is the DVD itself. First thing to do is peruse those contribution rules greyghost linked to. If you've got questions about them after that (and they can be confusing) don't be afraid to ask. We'll try not to bite.  | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
-- Thorin Oakenshield |
| | Registered: September 15, 2010 | | Posts: 3 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thank you all. All DVD data is correct according DVDs itself, I'll edit source notes and contribute again. |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,917 |
| | Posted: | | | | I find it useful to state in the contribution notes that the source for the change was the DVD/end credits for each section you change. Just note that if you say the DVD is the source when it's not, you are likely to have your contribution ability revoked.  Not saying that this is the case with you. |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 5,734 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting viniciusjf: Quote:
Hi. I'm new here, I bought DVD Profiler recently and I'm trying to contribute with some of my dvd, most of it is brazilian profiles.
The problem is that almost all of my contribution was declined and the feedback is: "An invalid source, such as a third party database, was listed in the contribution notes. Use of a third party database is not allowed per the contribution rules.".
My sources are imdb and dvd printed specifications always, but I don't know wich one is the wrong source, or both. I tried searching the forum for a valid sources list or any other answer for my problem, but I found nothing!
I need help, I'm not a clairvoyant! You contributed brazilian images to a german profile. Owners of that german DVD would not want to have brazilian images, you do not have to be a clairvoyant to foresee the outcome. | | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,491 |
| | Posted: | | | | and don't forget vinicius, you may have any type of scans and profile you want to your hearts delight.. but just don't contribute them .. lock them off ..  | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
Terry |
| | Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Posts: 823 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting viniciusjf: Quote:
Thank you all. All DVD data is correct according DVDs itself, I'll edit source notes and contribute again. But if it's still the same data you took from IMDB, it's still not allowed. I suggest you start over. Delete everything, then start again using only the DVD content and its cover. Ask if you need help. | | | | 99.9% of all cat plans consist only of "Step 1." |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting viniciusjf: Quote:
Thank you all. All DVD data is correct according DVDs itself, I'll edit source notes and contribute again. In your original post, you said " My sources are imdb and dvd printed specifications always..."  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Grendell: Quote:
Quoting viniciusjf:
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Thank you all. All DVD data is correct according DVDs itself, I'll edit source notes and contribute again.
But if it's still the same data you took from IMDB, it's still not allowed.
I suggest you start over. Delete everything, then start again using only the DVD content and its cover. Ask if you need help. Exactly. |
| | Registered: September 15, 2010 | | Posts: 3 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMovieman: Quote:
Quoting Grendell:
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Quoting viniciusjf:
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Thank you all. All DVD data is correct according DVDs itself, I'll edit source notes and contribute again.
But if it's still the same data you took from IMDB, it's still not allowed.
I suggest you start over. Delete everything, then start again using only the DVD content and its cover. Ask if you need help.
Exactly. Yes, I done it and was approved! Actually, my main source is always DVD cover and credits. I used the imdb as a complement sometimes because I thought it was a respected source here, but I can see it's not, then I'll not use it again. | | | | Last edited: by viniciusjf |
| | Registered: May 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | IMDB has it own accuracy issues. Not as bad as some would have you believe, but at one time it was horrible.
The big problem with using IMDB, or any third party DB, is the legal issues. IMDB is free for personal use, and I would imagine that if you wanted to scrape it for you own personal collection, there would not be an issue.
As soon as you submit it to the online, it is no longer personal. Invelos is a business entity, and therefore the online DB is a product and service of that business. IMDB charges for commercial use of it's information, and to use it for such is a copyright violation.
Some say they plant inaccuracies within the DB, just to catch people. I am not sure how much of that is true, but for legal sake, Invelos does not allow coping from 3rd party DB's. It must be your work.
Charlie | | | | Last edited: by CharlieM |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting viniciusjf: Quote:
Yes, I done it and was approved!
Actually, my main source is always DVD cover and credits. I used the imdb as a complement sometimes because I thought it was a respected source here, but I can see it's not, then I'll not use it again. It's not about it being a respected source, it's about it being against IMDbs ToS which forbids the use of their data for anything other than personal use...unless you pay a licensing fee. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting viniciusjf:
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Yes, I done it and was approved!
Actually, my main source is always DVD cover and credits. I used the imdb as a complement sometimes because I thought it was a respected source here, but I can see it's not, then I'll not use it again.
It's not about it being a respected source, it's about it being against IMDbs ToS which forbids the use of their data for anything other than personal use...unless you pay a licensing fee. Which is substantial: Quote:
Minimum Price: We offer data licensing packages that are customized to meet your needs with annual fees ranging from $15,000 to higher depending on the audience for the data and which data are being licensed. We are not able to offer any sort of data license for less than $15,000. |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CharlieM: Quote:
Some say they plant inaccuracies within the DB, just to catch people.
Not really big inaccuries but today by exemple I did my profile for the new Troll 2 dvd release and for the role imdb use complete name and in the credit they use first name only. So the double features (027616888990, canadian) is a copy of imdb, since complete name were used in the profile. And no I'm not the original contributor, I only sent the profile who was already in the database when this version of DVDP was released back in 2007  | | | | Last edited: by Jimmy S |
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