Welcome to the Invelos forums. Please read the forum rules before posting.

Read access to our public forums is open to everyone. To post messages, a free registration is required.

If you have an Invelos account, sign in to post.

    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1 2 3 ...11  Previous   Next
Credits Help
Author Message
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorninehours
Registered: April 3, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United Kingdom Posts: 1,998
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
In Ferris Bueller's Day Off at the end of the crew list there is this group "Parade Participants"



should they be included at the end of the cast list
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributortweeter
I aim to misbehave
Registered: June 12, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United States Posts: 2,665
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
My DVD copy has the Lockport High School Band listed as Uncredited, which apparently isn't true.

I would have no problem with the addition.


Save Ferris.
Bad movie?  You're soaking in it!
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
Don't be discommodious
Registered: March 13, 2007
United States Posts: 21,610
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I have  to ask where is this in relation to the Cast List, based on what I see it appears to be a very long way from it, soI WOULD have a problem with it. Back again to being able to divine what is and is not cast, when the filmmakers have a very specific Cast listing which has a beginning and an end.

I mean many movies specify Cast and then list Crew and these people appear to come under the CREW heading not the Cast. Why is not a Gaffer an actor, because he is part of the crew, not the Cast
ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here

Billy Video
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
Alien with an attitude
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 13,201
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting tweeter:
Quote:
I would have no problem with the addition.

Neither would I.  There was a parade in the film, on camera, and these people participated in it.  Seems like cast to me.

We have to remember that 'we' defined a standard cast list and no film makers were consulted.  They are not bound by our rules and can put cast anywhere they want.  If they are credited, then they should be included.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorVirusPil
uncredited
Registered: January 1, 2009
Reputation: Highest Rating
Germany Posts: 3,087
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
If they can be seen in the movie: Why not including them.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantAlien Redrum
Proudly blocked by liars.
Registered: August 23, 2008
Reputation: High Rating
United States Posts: 1,656
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting TheMadMartian:
Quote:
Quoting tweeter:
Quote:
I would have no problem with the addition.

Neither would I.  There was a parade in the film, on camera, and these people participated in it.  Seems like cast to me.

We have to remember that 'we' defined a standard cast list and no film makers were consulted.  They are not bound by our rules and can put cast anywhere they want.  If they are credited, then they should be included.




Well said.
Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com

"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributordee1959jay
Registered: March 19, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Netherlands Posts: 6,018
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
+1
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCorne
Registered: Nov. 1, 2000
Registered: April 5, 2007
Netherlands Posts: 1,059
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting TheMadMartian:
Quote:
Quoting tweeter:
Quote:
I would have no problem with the addition.

Neither would I.  There was a parade in the film, on camera, and these people participated in it.  Seems like cast to me.

We have to remember that 'we' defined a standard cast list and no film makers were consulted.  They are not bound by our rules and can put cast anywhere they want.  If they are credited, then they should be included.


Agreed
Cor
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorT!M
Profiling since Dec. 2000
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Netherlands Posts: 8,733
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Indeed, cast is cast, and crew is crew - no matter exactly where they're credited.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDanae Cassandra
Registered: Apr 11, 2004
Registered: May 26, 2007
Reputation: Great Rating
United States Posts: 2,878
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Corne:
Quote:
Quoting TheMadMartian:
Quote:
Quoting tweeter:
Quote:
I would have no problem with the addition.

Neither would I.  There was a parade in the film, on camera, and these people participated in it.  Seems like cast to me.

We have to remember that 'we' defined a standard cast list and no film makers were consulted.  They are not bound by our rules and can put cast anywhere they want.  If they are credited, then they should be included.


Agreed

Also agreed.
If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
-- Thorin Oakenshield
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKathy
Registered: May 29, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 3,475
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting TheMadMartian:
Quote:

Neither would I.  There was a parade in the film, on camera, and these people participated in it.  Seems like cast to me.

We have to remember that 'we' defined a standard cast list and no film makers were consulted.  They are not bound by our rules and can put cast anywhere they want.  If they are credited, then they should be included.


Sometimes I think your martian helmet steals my thoughts!

I agree that these are cast and are included.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
Don't be discommodious
Registered: March 13, 2007
United States Posts: 21,610
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting VirusPil:
Quote:
If they can be seen in the movie: Why not including them.

Virus:

I explained that already...OK. What special powers of divination do you possess? Based on your logic then there is NO Cast and there is No crew just one giant string of data, because you come somehow determine that this or that person is actually a cast member despite the fact that they do not appear in the CAST list, I would not only be against it,I would vote No to any such inclusion odata,simply becauseon that basis even the caterer is now Cast.
ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here

Billy Video
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
Don't be discommodious
Registered: March 13, 2007
United States Posts: 21,610
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting TheMadMartian:
Quote:
Quoting tweeter:
Quote:
I would have no problem with the addition.

Neither would I.  There was a parade in the film, on camera, and these people participated in it.  Seems like cast to me.

We have to remember that 'we' defined a standard cast list and no film makers were consulted.  They are not bound by our rules and can put cast anywhere they want.  If they are credited, then they should be included.

You are correct Profiler defined a STANDARD cast listand it is stated in the Rules, Martian.And that Rule says what? You are no arguing that the rule should be ignored because you too have some mystical divination capabilities. I am sorry not hat data lies OUTSIDE of the definition of =Standard Cast and is NOT a part of the Cast list. Acoountants are Cast?....REALLY? The Bonding Agent is Cast? You do an infomercial for your divining rod ,it must be something. Simply follow the Rules

"For the purposes of this section we define "standard" film credits as those where all credited actors involved are listed at the end of the film - defined here as the "end credits".The section details both the actor’s Name and the Role that they played in the film. The credits may be listed "in order of appearance", "alphabetical order" or in an order of importance decided by the filmmakers. Some actors may be credited a second time in either credits at either the opening or close of the film.

For any film with standard credits, take the actor information from the end credits only, with names and roles listed exactly as they are in the credits and in exactly the same order credited.  Exception: If the credit information is entirely capitalized, use standard capitalization rules instead."
ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here

Billy Video
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantjohnd
Evening, poetry lovers.
Registered: March 13, 2007
Australia Posts: 298
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
So, a cast member is only defined within a certain section of the credits? That is too stupid for words.

If so, why does any profile have any "uncredited" cast, as these don't appear anywhere in the credits.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKatatonia
Retired Profiler
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 20,111
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting T!M:
Quote:
Indeed, cast is cast, and crew is crew - no matter exactly where they're credited.


Agreed. I'd also have no problem with this being added.
Corey
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorVirusPil
uncredited
Registered: January 1, 2009
Reputation: Highest Rating
Germany Posts: 3,087
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Winston Smith:
Quote:
Quoting VirusPil:
Quote:
If they can be seen in the movie: Why not including them.

Virus:

I explained that already...OK. What special powers of divination do you possess? Based on your logic then there is NO Cast and there is No crew just one giant string of data, because you come somehow determine that this or that person is actually a cast member despite the fact that they do not appear in the CAST list, I would not only be against it,I would vote No to any such inclusion odata,simply becauseon that basis even the caterer is now Cast.


They can be seen in the movie (this can be verified visual), so yes, they can be included in every case. (even as uncredited)
I can't find a part of the rules where it's said, divide the credits into cast and crew or something like this.
So I get to the conclusion: Add them and you don't need to mark them as uncredited.

Nough said. 
    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1 2 3 ...11  Previous   Next