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| Registered: September 18, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,650 |
| | Posted: | | | | What is the best way to remove incorrect localities? Just change the title, submit and ask the screeners to remove? There seems to be hundreds wrongly attributed to the UK and there are a couple I want to remove  |
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | That seems to be the only way at this time. However, in most cases that I've seen, all that happens is that the changes are accepted and you get plenty of titles such as
----SCREENERS PLEASE DELETE----
in the database! Therefore, if you do, might I suggest also removing any cast/crew so they don't mess up the CLT figures (any more than they already are). |
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| Registered: September 18, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,650 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Formerly known as...: Quote:
Therefore, if you do, might I suggest also removing any cast/crew so they don't mess up the CLT figures (any more than they already are). Good idea. |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'm sure you realise that the procedure takes two submissions: a contribution of a new profile for the correct locality, and a contribution consisting of a request to remove the UK profile. I never knew that Invelos does not actually remove the UK profiles! Learn something new every day... |
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| Registered: September 18, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,650 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting dee1959jay: Quote:
I'm sure you realise that the procedure takes two submissions: a contribution of a new profile for the correct locality, and a contribution consisting of a request to remove the UK profile.
I never knew that Invelos does not actually remove the UK profiles! Learn something new every day... I have to admit, I am not keen on submitting a new profile for several reasons, the main one being I can't confirm the data. I can confirm the incorrect localities by a google search of the UPC, the scans and the fact the overviews are in the language of the correct locality. In the quick viewings I just made, the ones I looked at were already available in the correct locality anyway so that's a good thing! |
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 8,733 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting dee1959jay: Quote:
I never knew that Invelos does not actually remove the UK profiles! Learn something new every day... It's not that black and white: sometimes those profile are actually deleted (or at least: hidden), and sometimes they're not, and happily remain part of the database - now with something along the lines of "----SCREENERS PLEASE DELETE----" as the title. Why some are deleted and others aren't isn't clear - I certainly haven't been able to find any kind of pattern... So as a precaution, it's indeed always a good idea to strip the (often IMDb-mined) cast and crew from the profiles you're submitting for removal, so that even when it stays, it won't affect the CLT numbers any longer. | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting samuelrichardscott: Quote:
Quoting dee1959jay:
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I'm sure you realise that the procedure takes two submissions: a contribution of a new profile for the correct locality, and a contribution consisting of a request to remove the UK profile.
I never knew that Invelos does not actually remove the UK profiles! Learn something new every day...
I have to admit, I am not keen on submitting a new profile for several reasons, the main one being I can't confirm the data. I can confirm the incorrect localities by a google search of the UPC, the scans and the fact the overviews are in the language of the correct locality.
In the quick viewings I just made, the ones I looked at were already available in the correct locality anyway so that's a good thing! I understand. BTW usually the rating system used on the covers (if any) is a pretty good indicator of what the correct locality should be. |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 |  Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting samuelrichardscott: Quote:
I have to admit, I am not keen on submitting a new profile for several reasons, the main one being I can't confirm the data.
So why do you want to have them deleted Sam? You have no idea how I hate those who contribute stuff they don't own just to have an high number of contributions... Guess it's a good ego boost for some. No need to tell me that Ken had said it's ok, I know it and it's completly ridiculous, cause a lot of dammage to the database and make the database unworthy... |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
Quoting dee1959jay:
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I never knew that Invelos does not actually remove the UK profiles! Learn something new every day...
It's not that black and white: sometimes those profile are actually deleted (or at least: hidden), and sometimes they're not, and happily remain part of the database - now with something along the lines of "----SCREENERS PLEASE DELETE----" as the title. Why some are deleted and others aren't isn't clear - I certainly haven't been able to find any kind of pattern... How weird is that??  Perhaps Ken could do a sweep of all profiles with a title like that? |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting No_Name_Needed: Quote:
Quoting samuelrichardscott:
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I have to admit, I am not keen on submitting a new profile for several reasons, the main one being I can't confirm the data.
So why do you want to have them deleted Sam? You have no idea how I hate those who contribute stuff they don't own just to have an high number of contributions... Guess it's a good ego boost for some.
No need to tell me that Ken had said it's ok, I know it and it's completly ridiculous, cause a lot of dammage to the database and make the database unworthy... I'm sorry, but I'd have to disagree with that. IMO removing invalid profiles adds to the overall value of the database, and in the type of cases Sam was referring to it's VERY easy to spot they're invalid even without owning the release in question (mismatch between locality and language, rating system etc.). Moreover you're attributing motives to Sam which you cannot possibly judge in any valid way. |
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| Registered: November 24, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,275 |
| | Posted: | | | | I've got incorrect (or just plain wrong) Profiles removed in the past by ensuring that I point the screeners in the direction of the correct profile... I know they're gone because I can't call them up anymore.
For an example, this is what I did for an invalid profile of 'Disclosure' for the United Kingdom...
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Screeners, please delete this Profile from the database.
This is clearly a foreign copy of the film.
Cast and Crew information looks to be suspect too.
The only valid copy for this title (in the United Kingdom) can be found under the following barcode - EAN-7321900135757.
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| Registered: September 18, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,650 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting No_Name_Needed: Quote:
Quoting samuelrichardscott:
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I have to admit, I am not keen on submitting a new profile for several reasons, the main one being I can't confirm the data.
So why do you want to have them deleted Sam? You have no idea how I hate those who contribute stuff they don't own just to have an high number of contributions... Guess it's a good ego boost for some.
No need to tell me that Ken had said it's ok, I know it and it's completly ridiculous, cause a lot of dammage to the database and make the database unworthy... Why do I want them deleted? Because having them there does cause problems with several things. As some have mentioned already, the cast and crew can be screwed and because they have the wrong locality attributed to them they don't appear to have ever had any updates done to them (at least since 2007). I'm not going out of my way to look for them, in fact the ones I just submitted were ones that were the same title of something I just added to my wishlist (and they wrongly had UK as locality). I care about 'submission count' at about the same level I care about how bendy bananas are. I don't care. Just for you though buddy, I apologise for attempting to help make the database better. |
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| Registered: March 23, 2007 | | Posts: 97 |
| | Posted: | | | | If anybody has any questions on this subject then the best person to contact would be marcelb7 as he has been doing alot of work on this recently on the UK locality. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 5,734 |
| | Posted: | | | | Initial Contributions are the biggest source of error. | | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 736 |
| | Posted: | | | | One of the reasons that the UK has so many invalid profiles is because of the the early days of Profiler. The lack of proper localities in those early versions meant that anything that wasn't R1 US was usually submitted as UK. Unfortunately, during the migration from Intervocative to Invelos, many of those titles still made it into the database. I noticed recently that a ton of Hong Kong titles were still listed under UK and HK localities for the same UPC, despite being HK-only titles. It's a shame we don't have a better option to remove these titles. |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting samuelrichardscott: Quote:
I'm not going out of my way to look for them, in fact the ones I just submitted were ones that were the same title of something I just added to my wishlist (and they wrongly had UK as locality). I care about 'submission count' at about the same level I care about how bendy bananas are. I don't care. Don't take it personal, it was just a reaction to those who contribute on what they don't own and can't confirm (I don't name anyone and to be honest Sam, I think at someone else when I type ego boost). |
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