OK i want an end to this once and for all is "Recordist" an allowed credit per the rules or can it only be entered if the role specifically says "Sound Recordist"

Sorry Tim but that argument just doesn't hold water, either we allow credits that partially match the allowed credits list or we don't, what about if you see "Editor" in the credits by your argument they cannot be entered because only "Film Editor" & "Edited By" is in the allowed list of credits

what he does is not the point we either allow partially matching credits or we don't, how many times have you done the credits for a British TV show and seen the credit "Designer" this is not in the allowed list under "Production Designer" but because it partially matches I'm betting you (and me) always enter it. i just want this sorted, either we are allowed to enter these partially matching credits or we are not 

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what he does is not the point

Really?    Well, it is to me.

what the credit is is the point, this person is credited as "Recordist" this credit is within the Sound section of the credits so this person is a "Sound Recordist"

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so this person is a "Sound Recordist"

No, the "recordist" generally is a minor studio technician assisting the re-recording mixer.

A "sound recordist", however - something we do track - is either (a) the sole sound-related credit in what the rules refer to as an "older film", or (b) the UK term for "production sound mixer".

And yes, confusing as this may seem to anyone not terribly interested in the movie sound business, even some film credits get it wrong, and occasionally will refer to the "sound recordist" as "recordist", like in the example Draxen gave. An occasional mistake like that is, however, no reason to suddenly throw all those minor studio technicians into our profiles.

There's an extremely simple solution to all this: the "Primarily used in older films" note for the "Sound" credit needs to be changed to "Only use when there's no production sound mixing credit". Rule proposal (by yourself, I might add) here:

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So what if the note was changed to "Primarily used in older films, Only credit these roles when no PSM (or variants) is present" would that cover it?

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So how is the average user supposed to know when it is allowed and when it's not

Simple, as I just said, and you yourself suggested: by only using DVD Profiler's "sound" credit when there's no production sound mixing credit. It's really no more complicated than that.

As for "partially matching credits" - sound effects editor, anyone?

Not at all - I'm just showing you what happens when we're allowing all partially matching credits.

Again, I fully support your own suggestion as a perfectly simple solution to all this: the "Primarily used in older films" note for the "Sound" credit needs to be changed to "Only use when there's no production sound mixing credit".

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As for "partially matching credits" - sound effects editor, anyone?

Wow....... are you loosing the discussion that badly that you now have to try and deflect the issue on to another 

To be precise it was you who started this with your switch to the "Editor"-section, Tim at least stayed within Sound.

That was just given as an example of partial credits that are entered every day by user's of the programme if "Editor" is allowed to be entered under "Film Editor" and "Design/Designer" under "Production Designer" then why is "Recordist" not allowed for "Sound Recordist"?