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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,652 |
| | Posted: | | | | I've come across credits for Costumer a couple of times. Since it isn't in the approved table I haven't contributed it, but it sounds really close to "Costumes by".
When there is no other costume designer credit, wouldn't it make sense to allow Costumer? | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Per the Rules you are correct. Gunnar. I do use them locally , if they are the only Costume Credit, and therein lies the rub , sometimes you will see Costume Designer, Costume/Wardrobe Supervisor, AND Costumer | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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|   | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,733 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting GSyren: Quote:
When there is no other costume designer credit, wouldn't it make sense to allow Costumer? The difficulty is the "if... then" in that: I'm extremely worried that allowing this would lead to all costumers being listed, even when there already is a valid "costume designer" credit, and I certainly wouldn't want that. Personally, I would rather keep these few occasions local instead of muddying the waters for the online database even further. Like Skip, that's what I've done: only when it's the sole costume-related credit, I track these locally using custom crew. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | And you know how I feel about conditionals Tim  We hates them my preciousssssss, we hates the filthy little conditionals....forever | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
Quoting GSyren:
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When there is no other costume designer credit, wouldn't it make sense to allow Costumer?
The difficulty is the "if... then" in that: I'm extremely worried that allowing this would lead to all costumers being listed, even when there already is a valid "costume designer" credit, and I certainly wouldn't want that. Personally, I would rather keep these few occasions local instead of muddying the waters for the online database even further. Like Skip, that's what I've done: only when it's the sole costume-related credit, I track these locally using custom crew. I always thought it would have been nice if the crew roles had been given a heirarchy - for example, costume designer at the top, then costumes, then wardrobe, then wardrobe supervisor, then costumer. You start at the top of the list and when you find a credit you can put in you stop and enter no more crew from that section. Does that make sense? |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | It makes sense to me, North. But it is a conditional and experience dictates that conditionals will cause confusion among some users. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Billy Video |
| | Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | Lots of coustume supervisors being contributed lately also. I don't mind them, but feel if someone else is credited as designer (and all these i refer to have designers already), then supervisor or coustumer is just overkill and redundant. Now if no other credits exist I'm fine with em.
I gave up locally. I started trying to keep them out, but it's a losing battle. |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bigdaddyhorse: Quote:
Lots of coustume supervisors being contributed lately also. I don't mind them, but feel if someone else is credited as designer (and all these i refer to have designers already), then supervisor or coustumer is just overkill and redundant. Now if no other credits exist I'm fine with em.
I gave up locally. I started trying to keep them out, but it's a losing battle. I wouldn't mind so much if we could tell the difference, but when they all come through as "costume designer" it's a shame. Hopefully one day Ken will allow us to contribute custom roles so we can tell the difference. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Well north, there is an interim option, include the Actual roles uin the notes, some users myself included do this just so that the Actual Role is documented and so that those like me who are tracking ACTUAL roles acan simply cut and paste. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Billy Video |
| | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 8,733 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
Quoting T!M:
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Quoting GSyren:
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When there is no other costume designer credit, wouldn't it make sense to allow Costumer?
The difficulty is the "if... then" in that: I'm extremely worried that allowing this would lead to all costumers being listed, even when there already is a valid "costume designer" credit, and I certainly wouldn't want that. Personally, I would rather keep these few occasions local instead of muddying the waters for the online database even further. Like Skip, that's what I've done: only when it's the sole costume-related credit, I track these locally using custom crew.
I always thought it would have been nice if the crew roles had been given a heirarchy - for example, costume designer at the top, then costumes, then wardrobe, then wardrobe supervisor, then costumer.
You start at the top of the list and when you find a credit you can put in you stop and enter no more crew from that section.
Does that make sense? It does! And I have supported this exact concept right from the start. Immediately after the "costume designer" was introduced - before any "damage" was done - this was discussed extensively, and if I'm not mistaken, there was even a detailed rule proposal drafted. Unfortunately, nothing ever happenened, and I still think that was a huge mistake. I'd still like to see this hierarchy thing implemented as soon as possible. | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | I still say just open it up to Open Credits. Stop trying to shoehorn data, just list what you see. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video | | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
| | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 8,733 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
Stop trying to shoehorn data Northbloke's suggestion actually cuts down on shoehorning... |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | No it doesn't , he doesn't say to enter the data as seen. Which means a Costumer could still appear as Costume designer to us. And as I suggested the only way to deal with that is to list the Actual data in your notes. Now I know how uncomfortable that makes you, Tim, that you might actually to choose to list notes tat communicate to your colleagues, instead of just doing NO MORE than Ken requires. You see I consider your fellow user and teammates to take precedence over Ken, I see Ken;'s cvomment s on these type of issues to be not unlike government standards, they are the MINIMUM that must be met. What quality of house do you want to buy something that meets the minimums or something better. UI want better....make that best. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
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