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Same UPC Different Artwork Question
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantJimmyT
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Just a few questions...
why is it that some movies have different artwork even when the UPC's are the same?
Is this because the Disc ID is different?  If so, can you contribute a movie with the same UPC but a different Disc ID?  I usually enter my movies into my collection by name and download the profile from the database.  If the covers match I accept that version as the one I have.  I usually don't enter the UPC or scan the disc.  Should I be doing this?  My questions come up because I was entering a movie by the UPC (which I thought maybe I should start doing) and though the UPC's matched, the cover art was completely different.  Does this mean I have a version that can be contributed, or just some sort of rogue cover?  So, why are some duplicates OK, and others not?
Just trying to figure this out.
Thanks for any thoughts on this.
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The original release cover scans are the ones that should be in the database. These covers can change over time and are not contributed because they would override the "correct" scans.

Many other people own re-release cover scans. These can not be contributed but can be shared via this thread: http://invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=422971&PageNum=1

Disc ids are a different story. These should be contributed if the UPC is the same but the disc id is different.
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First, you are better off adding titles by UPC as it, usually, guarantees that you will get the proper profile for your release.

Second, same UPC but different covers and different disc ID usually means a rerelease.  Because this happens often, only the original cover scan is attached to the profile in the maind db.
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OK, one more question then....
How do know which one is the original release?
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What's the UPC/Title, usually when this happens you have a rerelease cover that is not contributable as only the original release is allowed per the rules.

Rory


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You can usually ten by comparing the copyright on the back covers.

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As Rory said, you can check the copyright date on the back of the case.  If it is different than the release date, odds are it is a rerelease.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantJimmyT
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Thanks for the replies....
One more question (sorry)....
Why is it in many cases when I go to download a profile there are several choices for the same movie? Many with different covers?  Are these not re-releases?  Shouldn't there only be the one "Original" release version? (more than one question, I know)
Thanks again
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There are several reasons for there being more than one profile for the same movie:

1.  The movie may have been released multiple times by the same company with different UPC numbers.  Each UPC can be profiled separately.

2.  The movie may have been rereleased with the same UPC but a different Disc ID.  In this case the Disc ID can hold the profile and have the cover art for that release.

3.  The movie may have been released by one company, and, later, the rights were sold to a different company and the second company released the movie on DVD.

4.  The DVD may be profiled in different localities (for instance USA & Canada), and each locality may have a different cover.

Just a few reasons. 
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Another reason would be different versions...DVD, Blu-ray, 2-Disc, 3-Disc, Special Edition, etc.
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Thankyou
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You are welcome, and BTW welcome to our little asylum!  

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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantgardibolt
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Thanks for the replies....
One more question (sorry)....
Why is it in many cases when I go to download a profile there are several choices for the same movie? Many with different covers?  Are these not re-releases?  Shouldn't there only be the one "Original" release version? (more than one question, I know)
Thanks again


There can be more than one original release version too.  There was a release of The Usual Suspects some years ago that had multiple covers released at once but all with the same UPC code, and otherwise identical.  Then it's just whichever one makes it into the system first.
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There can be more than one original release version too.  There was a release of The Usual Suspects some years ago that had multiple covers released at once but all with the same UPC code, and otherwise identical.  Then it's just whichever one makes it into the system first.

I forgot about that option.  Sin City did the exact same thing.  Five different slipcovers, if I remember correctly...all released on the same day with the same UPC.
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Just a few questions...
why is it that some movies have different artwork even when the UPCs are the same?

Another area for different artwork could be Locality such as I found this past week ..
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantJimmyT
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Wow!  That's a lot of different options to take into consideration for anyone thinking about contributing.  With all of this, it stands to reason that confusion should be expected every now and then when contributions are made.  I will keep this all in mind.
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