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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKathy
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What is correct if the Studio/MC is listed on the back cover as: The Vitaphone Corp.?

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It seems like it's mostly credited as "The Vitaphone Corporation". Since the rules explicitly say not to abbreviate, I would use that full name for the occasional abbreviated "Corp." credit as well.
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Without knowing the actual company name, I have to agree with T!M.  If you can give me the real name, I can give you a better answer.
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I didn't realize that you were using the real name.    After further research, I still agree with T!M.
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Those early talkies used this sound on disc process.. I guess the two companies ( Warners and Vitaphone ) came together with the finances for production of these films., .
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It seems like it's mostly credited as "The Vitaphone Corporation". Since the rules explicitly say not to abbreviate, I would use that full name for the occasional abbreviated "Corp." credit as well.


The rules say not to abbreviate Studio or Media Company names, e.g. use Universal Pictures not just Universal. The rules also say to omit company suffixes such as LLC, Ltd., Inc. "Corp." ("Corporation") is a company suffix and should be omitted.
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It seems like it's mostly credited as "The Vitaphone Corporation". Since the rules explicitly say not to abbreviate, I would use that full name for the occasional abbreviated "Corp." credit as well.


The rules say not to abbreviate Studio or Media Company names, e.g. use Universal Pictures not just Universal. The rules also say to omit company suffixes such as LLC, Ltd., Inc. "Corp." ("Corporation") is a company suffix and should be omitted.

In this instance, it isn't.  In this instance, it is part of the name and should be included.
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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It seems like it's mostly credited as "The Vitaphone Corporation". Since the rules explicitly say not to abbreviate, I would use that full name for the occasional abbreviated "Corp." credit as well.


The rules say not to abbreviate Studio or Media Company names, e.g. use Universal Pictures not just Universal. The rules also say to omit company suffixes such as LLC, Ltd., Inc. "Corp." ("Corporation") is a company suffix and should be omitted.

In this instance, it isn't.  In this instance, it is part of the name and should be included.


I'm sorry, but of course it is. The Vitaphone Corporation was a sound film company founded in 1925. Corporation is the ending suffix of this company's name and informs people what kind of company it was. When registering a company, you will be coming up with a name that combines the title of your company with an ending suffix. It is not possible to register a company without a suffix.

Suffixes available for use by corporations are (for example): Inc., Inc, Incorporated, Corp., Corp, Corporation, Co., Co, Ltd., Ltd and Limited. Limited Liability Company is a different type of entity than a corporation and suffixes available for it are (for example): Limited Liability Company, LLC and L.L.C.

The rules say do not abbreviate Studio or Media Company names. This does of course not mean that you should include also the company suffix of the company's name, because the next rule tells us to omit it. All company names have a suffix but the rules explicitly say not to include it.

To me it is obvious that Corporation is a company suffix of a company's name and we should not include it. IMO this can't be open to interpretations, but perhaps this is just because I'm a Company Lawyer .
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I'm sorry, but of course it is. The Vitaphone Corporation was a sound film company founded in 1925. Corporation is the ending suffix of this company's name and informs people what kind of company it was. When registering a company, you will be coming up with a name that combines the title of your company with an ending suffix. It is not possible to register a company without a suffix.

Really?  My wife's company was registered without a suffix.  No Inc., no Corp., no LLC, no LTD., no nothing.

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To me it is obvious that Corporation is a company suffix of a company's name and we should not include it. IMO this can't be open to interpretations, but perhaps this is just because I'm a Company Lawyer .

That would make the credited name 'The Vitaphone' and, I am sorry, but that just doesn't make any sense.
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What is correct if the Studio/MC is listed on the back cover as: The Vitaphone Corp.?

I would say The Vitaphone Corporation, since we don't abbreviate studio/company names.

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I think of a suffix in this case as something that comes after the company name and a comma: Warner Bros. Pictures, Inc. has a suffix; The Vitaphone Corporation does not. IMO.
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I think of a suffix in this case as something that comes after the company name and a comma: Warner Bros. Pictures, Inc. has a suffix; The Vitaphone Corporation does not. IMO.

I'm sorry, but commas can't have any relevance here. I'm working on a Finnish company by the name of Itella Oyj (in Finnish), Itella Abp (in Swedish) and Itella Corporation (in English). Oyj, Abp and Corporation are all company suffixes which tell you what kind of company Itella is.

I'll give you a more familiar example: a Production Company named Columbia Pictures Corporation. If Corporation is not a company suffix, it should be included as a part of the company name to DVDP database, shouldn't it? Why would we treat Columbia Pictures Corporation different from The Vitaphone Corporation?
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I agree with Pistol Pete. Corporation is a company suffix.
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At first I was agreeing with T!M and the Martian, but Pistol Pete's explanation makes a lot of sense, so I have to say he is right imho

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