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| Registered: January 10, 2009 |  Posts: 1 |
| | Posted: | | | | Hi,
I have a healthy list of around 20 DVDs that I couldn't locate in the database. I'd like to contribute them but I have few questions:
1) I own a UK version of "Guess who's coming for dinner". The Disc ID matches the existing Belgium and Netherlands versions. The contribution guide tells me to be wary of re-releases with same UPC and different Disc ID. But it doesn't tell me what to do with different UPC and same Disc ID. Should I create a new profile from scratch?
2) The guide is also vague on the issue of cover images. Are they required? Is it common/allowed to use cover images downloaded from the internet? I do not own a scanner, and I'm a little wary of uploading copyrighted material.
3) I bought a Charlie Chaplin Collection in Dubai (Easy Street, The Adventurer, The Immigrant). It does have a UPC, and while the cover image looks a bit fishy (pixellated), it's a regularly pressed dvd (meaning they didn't use a blank dvd to burn it). The UAE company name (Sound & Vision Trading) only renders yellow pages like results on google. I bought it at a booth on a computer fair together with "Far from Heaven" which definitely was a legit UK copy. Overall, I'm inclined to believe it's legit. Any idea how to verify this? Would you add it? And what do I do with the locality field that doesn't list UAE (yet?)?
These questions have probably been asked before, but the "any date" search times out and I couldn't find any topic covering these from the last 30 days. Thanks for your help.
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| Registered: May 22, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,033 |
| | Posted: | | | | 1) if the DiscID matches it's a pretty safe bet the data (at least that which is on the disc) is the same so see here: http://www.dougweb.org/dvdpro/kb/index.php?title=Cloning_Profiles for help on cloning profiles. It is still a good idea to verify the data on your copy though 2) Covers are not required. For the online database you should not be submitting covers taken from other sites (especially if they contain watermarks) for those copyrighted material concerns you mention (though I am sure people do, especially for pre-release profiles). For you local data you can add whatever you want as the cover image (internet images, movie posters, etc). Keep in mind when you first submit a new profile if it has images they will get included in the contribution so add the images after your initial contribution 3) Don't have a good answer for this one -Agrare |
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Affentod: Quote:
1) I own a UK version of "Guess who's coming for dinner". The Disc ID matches the existing Belgium and Netherlands versions. The contribution guide tells me to be wary of re-releases with same UPC and different Disc ID. But it doesn't tell me what to do with different UPC and same Disc ID. Should I create a new profile from scratch? The same Disc ID across localities isn't uncommon, especially in Europe. The easiest way to create a profile for this one is to download an existing one & then go to -- DVD ---> Change EAN ---> Enter then EAN from your release. As it shares the same Disc ID, the contents on the disc should be the same but just give them a quick once over and verify that they are indeed the same. You'll need to remove the cover scans though as they will be locality specific. Quote:
2) The guide is also vague on the issue of cover images. Are they required? Is it common/allowed to use cover images downloaded from the internet? I do not own a scanner, and I'm a little wary of uploading copyrighted material. No one is required to add any section that they don't wish/aren't able to. Generally only pre-release profiles would get images taken from the internet. Quote:
These questions have probably been asked before, but the "any date" search times out and I couldn't find any topic covering these from the last 30 days. Thanks for your help.
Cheers The search here is the weak point. Most people use Google & add site:invelos.com to the search term. That works much better. |
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| Registered: May 22, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,033 |
| | Posted: | | | | I knew there was one other thing I wanted to say in my post but couldn't remember what. it was the search. As forget said use google search with site:invelos.com yeilds much better results
-Agrare |
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | With regards to the third one, try doing a Google search on the UPC/EAN. If that shows up with your title on various sites, it's more likely to be legit. |
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  | Corne | | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
| Registered: April 5, 2007 |  Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Affentod: Quote:
Hi,
I have a healthy list of around 20 DVDs that I couldn't locate in the database. I'd like to contribute them but I have few questions: Welcome! Quoting Affentod: Quote:
1) I own a UK version of "Guess who's coming for dinner". The Disc ID matches the existing Belgium and Netherlands versions. The contribution guide tells me to be wary of re-releases with same UPC and different Disc ID. But it doesn't tell me what to do with different UPC and same Disc ID. Should I create a new profile from scratch? I understand that you own the UK version of this DVD release. That means it's a release from another country (and for DVD profiler purposes, other locality). It's isn't a re-release. If your DVD isn't in the database by the EAN code (usually this can be found somewhere on the back cover) with its corresponding locality (United Kingdom) than the only option will be to enter it yourself. What you could do is download the Dutch version and than change the locality and EAN (UPC) of that release (select the DVD you want to change en than the menu: DVD > Change Locality ... and later followed by DVD > Change EAN ...). Check if there are some errors or false data in this profile and then you can contribute it. Quoting Affentod: Quote:
2) The guide is also vague on the issue of cover images. Are they required? Is it common/allowed to use cover images downloaded from the internet? I do not own a scanner, and I'm a little wary of uploading copyrighted material. Cover images aren't required. Copyrighted material isn't allowed either. Quoting Affentod: Quote:
3) I bought a Charlie Chaplin Collection in Dubai (Easy Street, The Adventurer, The Immigrant). It does have a UPC, and while the cover image looks a bit fishy (pixellated), it's a regularly pressed dvd (meaning they didn't use a blank dvd to burn it). The UAE company name (Sound & Vision Trading) only renders yellow pages like results on google. I bought it at a booth on a computer fair together with "Far from Heaven" which definitely was a legit UK copy. Overall, I'm inclined to believe it's legit. Any idea how to verify this? Would you add it? And what do I do with the locality field that doesn't list UAE (yet?)? You could search for a legit Internet shop from UAE and check whether they sell this release. I don't know how this could be checked. Maybe this release is from another country in the Middle East and you could use that country as locality? | | | | Cor |
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| Muckl | | That's my common name. |
| Registered: April 9, 2009 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 858 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Forget_the_Rest: Quote:
With regards to the third one, try doing a Google search on the UPC/EAN. If that shows up with your title on various sites, it's more likely to be legit. Quoting Corne: Quote:
Maybe this release is from another country in the Middle East and you could use that country as locality? These ^ If the locality isn't listed in DVD Profiler, you won't be able to contribute that profile – adding a manual profile to your local database always works though. | | |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | You must only be aware of TWO things if you use an image from the internet. Does the image look like what you have in your hot little hand, and is it watermarked. If it is watermarked then the only place for it is locally. I don't like to use Internet images except as temporary place holders, but then I have my own scanner and do my own.
The answers given to your other questions are correct. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
You must only be aware of TWO things if you use an image from the internet. Does the image look like what you have in your hot little hand, and is it watermarked. If it is watermarked then the only place for it is locally. I don't like to use Internet images except as temporary place holders, but then I have my own scanner and do my own.
The answers given to your other questions are correct. I do also not have problems with scans from the web, as they don't have the mistakes Skip explained above. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,414 |
| | Posted: | | | | Easy Street, The Immigrant and The Adventurer are all public domain films, at least in the US. So I think the bootlegging concerns are low.
A little research indicates that the UAE's copyright law for performing arts is a term of 50 years so these films should be PD in Dubai as well:
http://www.zu.ac.ae/library/html/UAEInfo/documents/UAECopyright.pdf
So it may be cheaply slapped together (a la Madacy or Alpha), but the film itself is probably not illegal on DVD regardless. Now, whether the music score (if there is one) has been stolen and bootlegged is a different issue. | | | | "This movie has warped my fragile little mind." |
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