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| Registered: November 11, 2007 |  Posts: 29 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have run across a number of contribtutions adding Uncredited cast. The source is the AFI database. Does that fall into the same catafory as IMDB which I have been made to understand is not allowed? Lastly, where in the rules can the prohibition regarding the database be found?
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | If it is their only source I would vote no. If they have at least a couple more sources then I would probably vote yes. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: June 12, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | Unless they've included time hacks and other details needed to ID the person (especially if not well known) on my disc i would vote know.
A referenced database by itself is not sufficient. | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | Just one source could be a bit less.
Some kind of explained personnel recognize is also always good.
And for voting the contribution notes have to be good (see above) and my vote is also a bit depending on the experience I had with the contributor. |
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| Registered: April 3, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,998 |
| | Posted: | | | | When you contribute uncredited actors isn't there a declaration you have to tick to say you have personally identified them from the film? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,372 |
| | Posted: | | | | Time stamps are not and never were a requirement. Voting no because someone doesn't include them is against the voting rules.  AFI is fine but like with any other source they should list more than one as the rules state you can't "submit content from a third party database". IMDb can be used as an additional source. You have to watch for sites that list IMDb cast though. Most I've seen will reference IMDb (I'm sure it's part of their licensing) but the reference may be hard to spot. If the contribution has 3 independent sources that all list the same thing there is no reason Invelos shouldn't accept it.  |
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ninehours: Quote:
When you contribute uncredited actors isn't there a declaration you have to tick to say you have personally identified them from the film? I thought I'd heard something about that but just did a test and didn't have a tick box. |
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| Registered: April 3, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,998 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Forget_the_Rest: Quote:
Quoting ninehours:
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When you contribute uncredited actors isn't there a declaration you have to tick to say you have personally identified them from the film?
I thought I'd heard something about that but just did a test and didn't have a tick box. Weird, just did a test and i got it  OK just did another one on a profile that already has uncredited and this time did not get the declaration | | | | Last edited: by ninehours |
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| Registered: November 11, 2007 | | Posts: 29 |
| | Posted: | | | | For accuracy purposes,I should have added in some contributions TCM.com was sited as well as AFI.com! |
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | I just tried again with a different profile and got the box on that one! However for the first one, I still don't get a box -  The only difference is that this profile has an auto filter change as well. With the other one, the uncredited was the only change. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting dalen: Quote:
I have run across a number of contribtutions adding Uncredited cast. The source is the AFI database. Does that fall into the same catafory as IMDB which I have been made to understand is not allowed? Lastly, where in the rules can the prohibition regarding the database be found?
Thank you! Under the Introduction portion of the rules, you will find this statement: Please don't submit content from a third party database..." | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
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| Registered: April 14, 2007 | | Posts: 415 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Forget_the_Rest: Quote:
The only difference is that this profile has an auto filter change as well. With the other one, the uncredited was the only change. Did the profile with no box already contain uncredited and did the profile with a box have no pre-existing uncredited? |
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting jmbox: Quote:
Quoting Forget_the_Rest:
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The only difference is that this profile has an auto filter change as well. With the other one, the uncredited was the only change.
Did the profile with no box already contain uncredited and did the profile with a box have no pre-existing uncredited? Yes that's it! Thanks! So in other words, only the first person to contribute Uncredited to a profile needs to confirm they've identified the person. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 951 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Forget_the_Rest: Quote:
I just tried again with a different profile and got the box on that one!
However for the first one, I still don't get a box -
The only difference is that this profile has an auto filter change as well. With the other one, the uncredited was the only change. If I remember correctly Ken added the check box feature for new uncredited entries to a profile. Because of issues where some contributors were adding uncredited casts for brand new profiles. Since these brand new profiles don't come up for voting all sorts of bad data was getting in. | | | Are you local?
This is a local shop the strangers you would bring would not understand us, our customs, our local ways. | | | | Last edited: by Tracer |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,850 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Under the Introduction portion of the rules, you will find this statement: Please don't submit content from a third party database..." In fact, given the wording above the "Submit Uncredited Cast" check box on the contribution form, I'd say that even data from a compilation of several third party databases is insufficient documentation. --------------- |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
If it is their only source I would vote no. If they have at least a couple more sources then I would probably vote yes. I agree, time stamps would also be helpful. Third party sources certainly are not the preferred method. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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