A John Doe & Jane Smith Production

Does not necessarily make John Doe and Jane Smith producers.

Am I correct or in left field?

Would the producer credit need to be listed elsewhere?

Quoting CharlieM:

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A John Doe & Jane Smith Production

Does not necessarily make John Doe and Jane Smith producers.

Am I correct or in left field?

Would the producer credit need to be listed elsewhere?

"A John Doe Production" could be a producer credit in some cases in my opinion. But this could only be the case if there is no other producer credit in the film at all. Gerri's ruling about "Airplaine" is not comparable because there is a producer credit for "Jon Davison" in that movie which makes the "A Howard W. Koch production" a production company credit (which could be entered as such to the profile).

When there is no other producer credit it depends IMO if "John Doe" or "John Doe production" is a company or not.

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This is not a producer credit.  Gerri's ruling about 'Airplane' is comparable because it is the exact same credit format.  For this to be a produce credit, it would need to read 'Producer' or 'Produced by'.

Let's not make this any more complicated than it has to be.  We already have enough of those credits.

Exactly 

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Since when?

Well, I can understand where RHo is coming from - it's not unreasonable to say that it's either one or the other. It's not so strange to think: well, if "an XXX production" doesn't qualify for a "producer" credit for XXX, then XXX must be a production company. After all, the film is labelled as being "an XXX production" - I'm not surprised that someone would want to track XXX somewhere... I personally haven't done that, however, and I tend to follow your line of reasoning.

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"A Howard W. Koch production" a production company credit (which could be entered as such to the profile)

Since when?

I only enter these if it states: "Howard W. Koch Productions"

If it states "A Howard W. Koch production" that doesn't indicate to me an actual production company and I would both vote NO and remove such entries (and have on a recent update).

We also enter "A View Askew production" as a company credit even though the official company name is "View Askew Productions". How is "A Howard W. Koch production" different?

This is only one example. A lot of companies are named "Something Productions" or "Something Films" and the company credit is still "A Something production".

Because, I've always been led to believe that just because a person's name is mentioned it doesn't necessarily mean that there is a company by that name.

Howard W. Koch may very well own a production company but it could be called something totally different so we wouldn't use this in the Prod Company field.

I've been around a long time and have never seen anything to say we use these for Production Company - which is why I questioned it.

If we are, in fact, meant to be using these I would simply like to know for future reference. Does anyone know where this discussion happened?