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Why people don't contribute reason #3,761 (Locked)
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantKobeck
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For Trailer Park boys there were 2 cast members with common names.
Mike Smith and Michael Jackson

In the Invelos DB there was no correct associtaion for either one.  So I looked them up online.

TPB Mike Smith, aka "Bubbles" was born in 1972 - no problem I make the change and add the picture too my local db.  FWIW I give you Mike Smith 1972


The real frustrating one is that Invelos has TPB Michanel Jackson linked to this infamous dude who was born in 1958

The TPB Michael Jackson,aka "Trevor", was born in 1970 and looks like this


So I make the change and submit it.  I went too the trouble cause it was uber stupid too have black pedophile 1958 Michael Jackson show up in the cast of Trailer Park Boys.

Both submissions were cancelled because of lack of documentation.  Whatever   I will just lock my local db and whoever else has TPB can just go thru the same hassle I went thru to correct their local.
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I don't see the problem.  If you didn't provide documentation, then your contribution should have been declined.  Simply saying it is so, doesn't help.
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reason #3,762 why people don't contribute.


I say it is so cause I looked it up.  It is beyond reason to be distributing information stating

played a supporting role in Trailer Park Boys


Its one thing to have the info blank like Mike Smith, its another thing too just be plain wrong and well surreal.
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If you looked it up, provide the links to that information in your notes.  I am sorry, but it is unreasoable for you to expect that Invelos is just going to take your word for it.
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Ihave to agree with Martian,Kobeck. If you provided no supporting documentation  to support it, then it deserved to be turned down. You could have provided a time stamp or screen cap from the show to support your claim.

"I say it is so cause I looked it up." is NOT good enough. If you looked then back it upi, don't expect anyone to believe it just because you say so.

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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantKobeck
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http://www.trailerparkboys411.com/trailer_park_boys_cast.html
http://sharetv.org/person/mike_smith_xv
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1034591/

and this is why people don't hit the contribute button.

Even If I was wrong about Michael "Trevor" Jackson, and I'm not, I am clearly not as wrong as the current Invelos DB regarding Michael Jackson and TPB


Bottom lline it is easier to just fix the local than go thru the process.  Wonder how the process worked when
was approved?
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Deleted..

I'm totally drunk and posting on the site is probably not the best idea.

Love that picture of Michael's head on fire!! 
The night is calling. And it whispers to me soflty come and play.
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This does not sound like reason #3,761 or #3,762, it's more like reason #1.
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If there are more actors with the same name in database, submit Birth Years for them to distinguish between.
In your contribution notes it's necessary to give the sources of the BYs and to note which actors you want to distinguish.
If all is done, they should be get approved.
Imho this should not be too much work.
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Quoting Kobeck:
Quote:
http://www.trailerparkboys411.com/trailer_park_boys_cast.html
http://sharetv.org/person/mike_smith_xv
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1034591/

and this is why people don't hit the contribute button.

Even If I was wrong about Michael "Trevor" Jackson, and I'm not, I am clearly not as wrong as the current Invelos DB regarding Michael Jackson and TPB


Bottom lline it is easier to just fix the local than go thru the process.  Wonder how the process worked when
was approved?

Your documentation means NOTHING here. Was it included in your Contributions. Your feigned annoyance is annoying in and of itself.

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This is supposed to be a big deal...
Just contribute them as if they were the insane Michael Jackson and the other Mike Smith to please the online database and set a birthdate in your database. I'll do it all the time in mine, but I'm lucky since some of the actors had more than 10 different alias. I just use a different alias to differenciate (?) the same name when I can't find a birthdate and keep it personal.

Really don't see what is the problem here...
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantVittra
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Bottom line:

Contribution was correct, but you failed to provide enough information for the screeners to make an educated decision. They can't be expected to do all the research themselves for each respective contribution made. The documentation serves 2 purposes, for the screeners as mentioned above and as well as helping future contributers see what you have done and possibly even spread said Birth Year and broken connection to other profiles.

So you have a choice to make. You either want to contribute and help the community and program out by doing so. This includes doing some extra work that you may or may not feel is necessary, but it is part of the process. The world is full of hurdles if you want to help others and this case is no different.

Or like others have said, the program is made in such a way that people are able to do as much work as they want and keep it local if they'd rather not go through the trouble. So while I think I speak for most people when I say I hope you reconsider and continue contributing, no one can give you a hard time for not doing so. Use the program how you see fit. 

To be clear, I find the linking system really quite frustrating and have since given up on trying to sift through my collection's linking in hopes that Ken will fix it soon...so I really do feel your pain. Someday I might pick it back up, but I really do hope Ken has a change on the horizon.
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Quoting Kobeck:
Quote:
http://www.trailerparkboys411.com/trailer_park_boys_cast.html
http://sharetv.org/person/mike_smith_xv
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1034591/

and this is why people don't hit the contribute button.

Even If I was wrong about Michael "Trevor" Jackson, and I'm not, I am clearly not as wrong as the current Invelos DB regarding Michael Jackson and TPB


Bottom lline it is easier to just fix the local than go thru the process.  Wonder how the process worked when  ***IMAGE REMOVED***
was approved?

The online database doesn't have a brain.  It simply deals with data.  For it to distinguish between two actors, with the same name, we have to attach a birth year.  For that birth year to be accepted, we have to include documentation in our contribution notes.  If you aren't willing to do that, then it is you who is making the process harder.  I have gotten birth years accepted with very little effort...as have countless others.

According to the Birth Year thread, the online db has, at least, three Michael Jacksons...two with BYs attached, and one without.

Michael Jackson (1958)
Michael Jackson (1934)
Michael Jackson from the Trailer Park boys

You claim to have done the work, so I don't see what the problem is...just contribute TPB MJ, with documentation, and the MJ you are distinguishing from, with documentation from the BY thread, and it is all good.  If you aren't willing to do that, then you need to change the title of this thread to, "Why people don't contribute excuse #3,761."
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There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
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Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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If you aren't willing to do that, then you need to change the title of this thread to, "Why people don't contribute excuse #3,761."


This is your point of view. I know people who spend hours to share data with others but do not want anymore to work with a tyrannical blind system that generates only false data. If all this work was to have correct data in the dabase, I would understand. To have "per the rules" crap is not worth the time spent to contribute.
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That's just an excuse, yves.

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Quoting surfeur51:
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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If you aren't willing to do that, then you need to change the title of this thread to, "Why people don't contribute excuse #3,761."


This is your point of view. I know people who spend hours to share data with others but do not want anymore to work with a tyrannical blind system that generates only false data. If all this work was to have correct data in the dabase, I would understand. To have "per the rules" crap is not worth the time spent to contribute.

I am sorry but, that is just your point of view and, in my opinion, just another excuse.  This isn't our database.  If we want to contribute, we have to follow the rules.  If we don't want to follow the rules, then we don't get to contribute.  I am sorry, but that is not a hard concept to grasp.  I, like a lot of other contributors, enter data based on the rules, contribute it, then modify that data to suit our needs.  Does it take a little extra work?  Yes, but, again in my opinion, it's the least I can do.

If you don't want to do that, that' fine but...what is it you said to me?  Oh yea..."Not really in dvdprofiler spirit... but of course everyone may do what he wants..." 
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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