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Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,004 |
| Posted: | | | | I am looking for a DVR that doesn't have subscription fees and can record and play pack high definition unencrypted QAM and ATSC signals. Can a guy buy anythign liek this? It looks like I coudl build a home theater PC that does this, but this wouldn't be power efficient and would be a big pain. Does anyone know of a set top box that does this? |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 951 |
| Posted: | | | | I've been using Windows Media Center since 2005 works great. Windows Media Center now comes standard with Windows 7. Plus if you subscribe to Netfilx you can watch movies online and there is an addin for Hula. Recently I added an XBOX 360 which works as an extender for Media Center.
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Here's my setup
nMEDIApc HTPC 100 Nvidia 9400GT MSI 945GCM7-F Intel E7300 Core 2 Duo 1.5TB Seagate SATA HD OCZ 4GB DDR2 800Mhz 2x ATI DCT HDHomeRun Sony Blu-Ray Windows 7 Home Premium ArcSoft TotalMedia Theatre 3 PowerDVD 9 Ultra | | | Are you local? This is a local shop the strangers you would bring would not understand us, our customs, our local ways. | | | Last edited: by Tracer |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Try Moxi.com for a set top box, no fees and they claim 75 hours of record time in Hi-Def.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,004 |
| Posted: | | | | My mom has to be able to use this, which is a lot of the problem with a HTPC. For the price of the Moxi, though I coudl get a pre-built Lenovo that, while more complicated to use, would be far more versatile. | | | Last edited: by Ace_of_Sevens |
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Registered: March 16, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 943 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr Pavlov: Quote: Try Moxi.com for a set top box, no fees and they claim 75 hours of record time in Hi-Def.
Skip Interesting. Do you have one of these? Does anyone have one of these? | | | Just in from somewhere left of the middle of nowhere The Holy See Hell |
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Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,917 |
| Posted: | | | | I've used BeyondTV by Snapstream for many years and loved it. At the height, I could record 4 standard video streams (nVidia DualTV *2 - discontinued) and 4 HD streams (HDHomerun *2) while watching a previously recorded show, all at the SAME TIME! It's PC software and you'll want a somewhat beefy video card if you plan on using HDMI out, forget onboard video cards. I grudgingly took my DVR offline for two reasons: Wanting the ability to record encrypted HD channels such as Showtime and the fact that I switched to FiOS and they only have digital channels. But to summarize, I initially dropped my TiVo's because I wanted to drop the subscription fees too and I wanted a DRM free DVR (BeyondTV rocks in that department). But once you start down that road, the Upgrade Fever strikes you. I figure that I would break even in around a couple hundred years.... TIP: Have multiple hard drives in your DVR and do not use your system/boot drive for recording media. BeyondTV can handle a pool of drives and divide up the recordings to multiple drives. | | | Last edited: by Dr. Killpatient |
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Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,917 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr Pavlov: Quote: Try Moxi.com for a set top box, no fees and they claim 75 hours of record time in Hi-Def. Typically, such claims are with the device set to maximum video compression. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 951 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr. Killpatient: Quote: I grudgingly took my DVR offline for two reasons: Wanting the ability to record encrypted HD channels such as Showtime and the fact that I switched to FiOS and they only have digital channels. Have you thought of switching to Windows Media Center and using a Digital Cable Turner? I'm currently using two ATI DCTs to recorded encrypted cable channels and both Silicon Dust (makers of HDHomeRun) and Ceton will be releasing Digital Cable Tuners soon. Ceton's tuner will support 4 cable streams using the M-Card leaked retail price is supposed to be $399. Silicon Dust has yet to give any details about their DCT other than it will be a network based tuner like the HDHomeRun. | | | Are you local? This is a local shop the strangers you would bring would not understand us, our customs, our local ways. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 811 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote: I am looking for a DVR that doesn't have subscription fees and can record and play pack high definition unencrypted QAM and ATSC signals. Can a guy buy anythign liek this? It looks like I coudl build a home theater PC that does this, but this wouldn't be power efficient and would be a big pain. Does anyone know of a set top box that does this? I've owned the Moxie DVR for over a year and love it. 500GB on board, but you can plug in external HD's and expand that up to 6.5 TB (and if / when the external HD fills up, just plug in a new one). No fees, and they recently reduced the price to $499. Well worth it imo. http://moxi.com/us/home.html |
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Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,917 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Tracer: Quote: Have you thought of switching to Windows Media Center and using a Digital Cable Turner? I'm currently working on converting my DVR PC into a Windows Media Center movie player using ISO's stored on a custom NAS so that could eventually be an option. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 951 |
| Posted: | | | | You might want to check out this Media Center app, makes transfering your DVDs and BDs to a storage location all from the 10foot interface. Doesn't do ISOs but, Media Center won't play ISOs natively there are some third party apps that will allow you to mount ISO images that will make it work with Media Center. Also I think Media Browser will allow for playing ISO images. Currently I don't store any of my DVDs and BDs on a network but, thinking of doing that as soon as the network wiring is completed in my home. Figured I would build a Windows Home Server since it interfaces nicely with Windows 7. I do store all my CDs on my Media Center though and love it now all my CDs are boxed up and can play music on Media Center anytime I want. | | | Are you local? This is a local shop the strangers you would bring would not understand us, our customs, our local ways. |
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Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,463 |
| Posted: | | | | For DVR I use Hauppauge HD PVR to record from component out of any source. No DRM hassles. It takes optical in for audio. It will record in .ts, or .mp4 and has pre-built profiles for XBOX 360 and PS3. It ships with TotalMediaTheater capture, player and conversion software. To play ISOs, I use VLC player or WMP with Virtual CloneDrive natively under windows, or LoadDVD Pro to automate it inside a DVD Profiler window.
All my soft media is on Windows Home Server, and hard media are inside changers controlled by LoadDVD. | | | Thanks for your support. Free Plugins available here. Advanced plugins available here. Hey, new product!!! BDPFrog. | | | Last edited: by mediadogg |
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Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,917 |
| Posted: | | | | I went down the Rip path before and ended up deleting hundreds of films and starting over with ISO's because no matter which process I tried, the audio was always converted into stereo. With my living room wired for 5.1 and future plans of a 7.1 theater, the audio issue was a process killer.
I'm currently mucking around with Media Browser + Daemon tools for mounting ISO's but so far it's been touch-n-go. Media Browser has been hanging on me lately with my Loonie Toon episodes.
As for wiring your house network, run Cat 6 cables to support gigabit speeds. If you're not at gigabit speed now, you'll want to upgrade once you start moving gigabyte files around. | | | Last edited: by Dr. Killpatient |
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Registered: July 28, 2007 | Posts: 21 |
| Posted: | | | | i hate to say this while installing cat-6 may have benefits for for a computer based world take this in with food for thought, 90% of consumer electronics that has network integration barely supports gigabit speeds, the best you can hope for is 10/100, someone planning a tvserver may even want to consider running fiber optic as even with still using copper you will face limitation of the copper medium.
sadly i think we're 15-20 generations away from gigabit on everything as networking in general is still a new medium within the consumer electronics industry as a whole, the best we could hope for is 10/100, gigabit is way to far into the future for my liking, though until fibe3r becomes the main conduit into the home anything over 10/100 is going to be pointless venture for the simple fact the internet connection is 1/100th of the speed of the home network and as i said before most electronics gear coming out with network association is based on the older 10/100 gigabit has yet to integrated, so you're wasting your time integrating gigabit into the home where over half of the devices connected to your network are still serviced by a 10/100 connectionn so you can't benefit from the gigabit speed.. |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 820 |
| Posted: | | | | Cat 5E is certified for Gigabit Ethernet. Cheaper and easier to work with. Cat 6 is a very stiff cable. |
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