I'm working on the WDT set for the Hardy Boys. This series was a part of the Mickey Mouse Club and everything was credited at the end of the Mickey Mouse Club show complete with actors and crew.

The way this show is presented on the DVD, they don't show these credits. They are however included as an extra feature as part of the first Mickey Mouse Club Show introducing the Hardy Boys.

So... what do I do? Leave the crew empty and mark the actors uncredited, or enter the cast and crew as credited?

I would prefer the last option, but unsure what to do. It would be a shame to leave the crew out just because the credits were cut out of the feature presentation.

It's for the entire series. (The extra isn't the first episode, but an introduction by Tim Considine and Tommy Kirk) The cast list shows all characters, even those that don't appear in the first episode and from what I've managed to find out, the crew was the same for the entire show.

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My opinion would be to have cast and crew, but have cast listed as uncredited as the source is the bonus feature not the main one.  As you can't have uncredited crew, I'd enter them anyway, stating what you have here.

Have no idea if that's what the rules would okay, but to me, that's a legitimate source for the crew...it's the crew credits but just not attached to the feature.

Quoting LJG:

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My opinion would be to have cast and crew, but have cast listed as uncredited as the source is the bonus feature not the main one.  As you can't have uncredited crew, I'd enter them anyway, stating what you have here.

Have no idea if that's what the rules would okay, but to me, that's a legitimate source for the crew...it's the crew credits but just not attached to the feature.

I don't think a separate cast list would qualify to be a "bonus feature". And hence IMO there would be no need to list the cast as uncredited. I already quoted the rules on the issue.

Quoting dee1959jay:

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I'd use those as well. I've encountered cases before where the credits were in a separate section on the DVD. In terms of the Contribution Rules, I would regard these as non-standard credits, which are covered by the following part of the Rules:

"If a film does not have standard credits, use the following rules:
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If a film has no end credits, but does have actors credited elsewhere, enter the actors from those credits."

That is refering to credits that are part of the film, but not at the end.  It is not refering to credits that are included as part of a bonus feature or a booklet or anything else.  Credited cast come from the credits.

Unfortunately, LJG is correct.  If we are to follow the rules, the cast has to be uncredited and the crew left out as the rules for crew are quite clear..."Take Crew Credits from the film credits only".

You understand correctly dee1959jay

From earlier, we have two somewhat similar cases:

We have the British TV series Spooks where the cast and crew was never a part of the show. The credits were only available on an internet site (and through the DVD extras). In that case they were allowed as regular cast/crew

Then we have "From the Earth to the Moon" where the wrong credit was attached to the wrong episode. Ken and Gerri went in and decided that that was a mastering error and the correct credit could be entered from another source.

I give you those two examples to show you that the rules have been put aside in special cases. (Don't know if they should in this case, but I hope so)

If nothing else, do some of us a favor and submit them normally.  At least that way we can copy, paste and lock them locally before it all gets turned into uncredited crap.