We're pretty limited as to how to deal with situations like this.
Best you can do for the online is to separate the cast and crew using dividers.
As for the audio tracks, I would list them both even though there is one for one short.

If you want to go into more detail locally, you can do what you considered before: create a boxset and use a manual profile for the 2nd short - but unfortunately those profiles can't be submitted.

I am with north and Unicus on this, as our options are limited.

Rory


( I like your screen name, Its one of my favorite movies. I have Zeiram, Zieram 2, and Iria. )

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My first idea was to create a box-set, with one sub-profile for each movie...

This is the only solution if you do not want to violate the rules, that are very clear:

"The term "Box Set" is used to define any release that includes more than one film. The main examples are:

    * Sets where each film is packaged individually, and held together in a package of some kind.
    * Sets where each film is on a separate disc, but not individually packaged. This includes gatefold Digipaks and 2-Disc sets in normal DVD cases.
    * Sets containing 2 films, one on each side of Dual-Sided DVD."

Unfortunately, the application of rules forbid you to contribute your work. If you you enter them as a boxset, it's a technical problem that prevent you to do so (UPC), and if you enter cast and crew with dividers, it's the apllication of rules that forbid you to do so. So you have anyway to keep your work local.

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That's not necessarily true surfeur, for example UPC 683904-450593 Crossworlds/Cyborg 2: Double Feature. Both films are on one disk, cast and crew for both movies were submitted using dividers and accepted and realeased.

Rory

The fact they were accepted doesn't prove that the contribution doesn't violate rules. In fact, as usual, I find most rules should be used as guides, and that is not me who worked for strict application of rules. To be more clear, I also saw contributions where typos on overviews were corrected by the contributor, and the contribution accepted. I do not find that bad.

But what I find very funny is to see one user, who loves to give lessons and vote no on contributions, agree with advices that are against the rules.

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and apparently the submission does not violate the rules.

Sorry, but rules say that any release that includes more than one film is a boxset. If that submission has not been entered as a boxset, then it violates the rules.

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The wording of the rule Surfeur is referring to, however, sounds a bit too absolute. It might be a good idea to rephrase it to "any release that includes more than one film, except if one side of a single disc contains more than one film" or something along those lines (I'll leave it to a native speaker to come up with the best wording). Thus, any confusion (intentional or not) could be prevented.

I totally agree with you.

In the same idea, the wording of the rule about overviews sounds a bit too absolute. It might be a good idea to rephrase it to "Copy the overview from the back of the DVD case exactly as written, except typos that may be corrected." 

BTW, until rules are changed, I thought they had to be applied as they are...

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So northbloke's approach is currently the best we can do.

Why this need to contribute what is forbidden by the rules ?

Contribution role committee is the right place to propose a change, and if Ken wants it, he will change the rules. If he doesn't, it is not our role to decide in his place.

I will stop now this discussion. My purpose was just to demonstrate that people cannot say "We must apply strictly all the rules" when they find it correct for them, and "we do what we want" when there is a problem for them.

Go right ahead and contribute your profile. Countless contributions like these have been approved in the past (including a 50-movie box set containing twelve double-sided discs, each of which held more than one movie, which I submitted myself - check it out, if you like: the UPC is 826831070124 and you can see how this can be done by taking a look at the child profiles). Moreover, by contributing you're assisting your fellow users who then won't have to do double work.

The issue Surfeur was referrinig to is in fact a failure in the wording of one sentence in the rules to deal with a current technical limitation of the programme, nothing more. Contributing the way northbloke, Unicus and others have recommended is standard practice.

Just make sure you follow the Contribution Rules and specify in your Contribution Notes where you got your data from. Cast and Crew credits should come from the films' credits themselves.

If you have any further questions, just ask in these forums and I'm sure a fellow user will try to answer them.