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What to do with duplicate UPC's?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantSwedishMike
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I know that UPC's are supposed to be unique but there seems to be a problem with a movie that I bought at the weekend.

I bought a copy of Lucio Fulci's The House By The Cemetary. When I got home I was going to enter it into DVD Profiler.

However, when I enter the UPC, 5031932000061, it comes up as The Marseilles Connection.

The question here is what I do? I've double and triple checked my UPC so I know it wasn't a case of fat fingers.

Should/can I enter a second movie with the same UPC as the first one?

Thanks in advance, Mike
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Are the movie in the same contry code as the movie you got??
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If the DVD's share the same locality, you should enter your copy by Disc ID.
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Yeah, they're both in the same locality and they are both Region 0. Seems like both of them are coming from some kind of budget publishers too.

So the best thing would be to add the movie by disc id and disregard the UPC?

// Mike
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Yeah, they're both in the same locality and they are both Region 0. Seems like both of them are coming from some kind of budget publishers too.

So the best thing would be to add the movie by disc id and disregard the UPC?

// Mike


It's the best thing, and the only option. In the (current) DVDP software duplicate UPC/EANs are not allowed.

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Yeah, I guess that it's not easy to check that the other movie with the same UPC hasn't been entered incorrectly.

I shall go home and enter it using the disc id. Now, where can I find a scanner? 
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Yeah, I guess that it's not easy to check that the other movie with the same UPC hasn't been entered incorrectly.

I shall go home and enter it using the disc id. Now, where can I find a scanner? 

If there's cover scans on the profile - just have a quick check on the back cover, make sure it does match.
If it doesn't, I'd say try overwriting it with your DVD info.
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If there's cover scans on the profile - just have a quick check on the back cover, make sure it does match.
If it doesn't, I'd say try overwriting it with your DVD info.


All there is is the front cover. Given the look of the cover, as well as the description, actors etc, I don't think this is a movie I'll find in the local Blockbuster to check the UPC 
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Unfortunately in this case, the rule is that first in gets priority and uses the UPC, next needs to use the Disc ID.
The existing profile is incomplete, has no release date and an incorrect rating. There are no contribution notes either. However, that is probably not a good enough reason to remove it, and the locality may be correct, although in the past the UK locality was often assigned without thinking. Difficult to say without a look at the back cover.

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I just noticed that "your" profile is already in the database, and has been entered by Disc ID. Somebody else must have encountered the same problem.

You can either look it up by entering the profile by Title, or by putting the disc in your computer and search by Disc ID.

You don't even need a scanner (yet).
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I just noticed that "your" profile is already in the database, and has been entered by Disc ID. Somebody else must have encountered the same problem.

You can either look it up by entering the profile by Title, or by putting the disc in your computer and search by Disc ID.


Hans,

Many thanks for checking this. I'll check this when I get home tonight. I don't have the disc here so I cannot check right now. I did have a quick look on Saturday when I bought the DVD but couldn't see any covers that matched so I'll see what the disc id brings up.

Cheers, Mike
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I've just encountered the same problem with a cheap DVD I bought ages ago from Poundland.

Laurel & Hardy 'Before The Bowler' (A Documentary).

This also has the same barcode - 5031932000061.

Looks like this is the barcode they used for all the DVDs in this range. Grrr.

I will have to enter this through the Disc ID too. Damn annoying.
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Why can't Profiler handle dual UPCs? It certainly can do it for locality (I see it quite often with Canada and US).

Is there some programming issue behind it? Is it that hard to fix?

(Sorry if I have asked this before).
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Why can't Profiler handle dual UPCs? It certainly can do it for locality (I see it quite often with Canada and US).

Is there some programming issue behind it? Is it that hard to fix?

(Sorry if I have asked this before).


The reason that it can be done across localities is because for countries outside of the US it adds a country code after the UPC/EAN.

For example the UK Blu-ray of 10,000 BC is 7321900139670 for DVDP purposes, it sees it as 7321900139670.4

If another locality also uses the same EAN it would have a different number at the end.

To allow for the same number to be used inside a locality, it would require another way of identifying each individual release.
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Aaaah, okay, gotcha.

It seems like it would make sense to allow dual upcs in the same locality, and when you typed it in, if the UPC is shared, you pick which movie you wanted, even if they were in the same locality.
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Alien our Keys are UPC and Disc ID, because they are the keys, that is why they cannot handle duplicate UPCs. Now ken can override it and allow for a Duplicate entry in very special cases, this has been done precisely ONE time. Obviously it has to be something really special to override , otherwise Ken would spend all his time doing overrides and we would NEVER see another program version.

I haven't looked lately but I think even the lone exception has been changed, so there may not be any duplicated UPCs in the system now.
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