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MicHaeL H.
Registered: January 24, 2009
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Sorry if info on this already exists, but I couldn't find much.
This question is rather simple:

How do people that create these profiles always know the release-dates?
It's sure as heck not on the box, where to find something like that to the day?
I wouldn't even know which day if the title was released somewhere last week.
Let alone a title that's rather new, say 'Wanted', released late last year,
which for my specific version there was no profile for, which I made.
But, as you guessed, it's kind of incomplete without the release-date, at least not sortable by that.

So, please let me know how that's traceable.
Using a program like 'DVD Profiler' would be handy, but if it's not in there... XD
- MicHaeL
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There are websites that track release dates (usually for a specific locality), e-tailers often will list a release date (particularly for pre-orders) and of course from the official distributor.  The more the merrier as sources if submitting this information, although the official distributor is often (but not always) the most reliable source.
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MicHaeL H.
Registered: January 24, 2009
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Hm yeah, I think I just found the one for my DVD.
But how can I be sure it's for every version.

And how can I find something if it's barely findable, or something released long ago.
Well, I know it must be in someone's knowledge or database, but sometimes... it's so rare...
- MicHaeL
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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Since you are Dutch  , you can use www.dvd-home.nl. Select database from the top menu. They have a release list for almost all Benelux releases dating back to 2000. You can perform searches by title.

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MicHaeL H.
Registered: January 24, 2009
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Since you are Dutch  , you can use www.dvd-home.nl. Select database from the top menu. They have a release list for almost all Benelux releases dating back to 2000. You can perform searches by title.

And welcome to the asylum.


Ah, that's handy, thanks.
But... too bad I purchase most things from the UK lately. :\
- MicHaeL
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Registered: March 19, 2007
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For UK purchases, I find FindDVD very handy to find good deals. It usually gives you release dates as well (and links to a large number of webshops where you can compare them if you're unsure).
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For UK purchases, I find FindDVD very handy to find good deals. It usually gives you release dates as well (and links to a large number of webshops where you can compare them if you're unsure).


Always check... Find DVD is great but it always uses the release date listed by a particular etailer (I forget which) and occasionally that etailer is wrong if you check multiple sites and find everyone else agrees (usually when the release date moved by a week at the last minute).

The main problem I find is with old material that has been re-released which is usually only listed as 1) the re-release date and 2) the re-release SRP. This can be really hard to trace but you just do what you can!
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Hm yeah, I think I just found the one for my DVD.
But how can I be sure it's for every version.

And how can I find something if it's barely findable, or something released long ago.
Well, I know it must be in someone's knowledge or database, but sometimes... it's so rare...


you will find that a) most release dates are already on profiles. and
b) each release has it's own release date - so each profile could have a diffeent date - why would you think they would be the same?
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@ Voltaire53:
All very true, and matches my own experience. It's a good starting point though.
MicHaeL H.
Registered: January 24, 2009
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Quoting MicHaeL H.:
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Hm yeah, I think I just found the one for my DVD.
But how can I be sure it's for every version.

And how can I find something if it's barely findable, or something released long ago.
Well, I know it must be in someone's knowledge or database, but sometimes... it's so rare...


you will find that a) most release dates are already on profiles. and
b) each release has it's own release date - so each profile could have a diffeent date - why would you think they would be the same?


Well, there you go, "Why would you think they would be the same?".
Like I said, "How can I be sure it's for every version?".

I was wondering that because it was like this promo-site basically saying " DVD Out On *date* " .
Who knows the version I have had been released later.
But in this case I'm pretty sure since the other profiles of the same title all had the same release-date too.
Which were all kinds of versions, even similar to mine, but the number of mine wasn't in there.
So it was only slightly different, probably released at the same time.
- MicHaeL
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Michael, we don't keep track of re-release dates.

If a DVD is re-released with the same UPC, then we keep the original re-release date, and we also keep the original artwork, since we can't store multiple covers for 1 DVD.

If a DVD gets re-released with a new UPC, then this will become a whole new profile using the new date.

Hope this clarifies it for you.
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MicHaeL H.
Registered: January 24, 2009
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Michael, we don't keep track of re-release dates.

If a DVD is re-released with the same UPC, then we keep the original re-release date, and we also keep the original artwork, since we can't store multiple covers for 1 DVD.

If a DVD gets re-released with a new UPC, then this will become a whole new profile using the new date.

Hope this clarifies it for you.


But I never mentioned a re-release...
I actually bumped into a DVD of 'Wanted' which I didn't know the release-date of.
But I found it or actually partially "guessed" it since all the other versions of the title were all released the same date.
And I mean, the ones that were actually found manually through 'DVD Profiler'.
Since I doubt there have been any re-releases for such a recent title, it must have been released the same moment too.
It was only strange that this specific version wasn't in there (when using the code).
Especially since it was even bought from the UK rather than being a Dutch version.

So it was kind of weird but I just guessed it.
I don't really mind, an approximate date is enough just to sort the titles to dates if needed. :D


But another quick question, since you mentioned the artwork:

Would it be OK if I'd scan my own covers to put in there?
Or would that just be replaced by profile-updates? If there is such a thing...
And that actually counts for any edits, would they be reverted again if I'd updated anything?
Or would that just stay as like "my own database"?


Thanks,
- MicHaeL
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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I was wondering that because it was like this promo-site basically saying " DVD Out On *date* " .
Who knows the version I have had been released later.
But in this case I'm pretty sure since the other profiles of the same title all had the same release-date too.
Which were all kinds of versions, even similar to mine, but the number of mine wasn't in there.
So it was only slightly different, probably released at the same time.


This is the portion of your statement that I think cvermeylen was referring too. What people are saying is that DVD's get release on different dates depending on the country, some DVD's are release first in the USA, sometimes we get them first in the UK (Battlestar Galactica Season 4 for instance).

Some DVD's can be withdrawn due to unforeseen circumstances (The Living Daylights - Special Edition) was withdrawn from sale within it's first week due to some credit agreement (later released) but once the dispute was sorted out the DVD was "Re-Released" with one change on it.

Steve
MicHaeL H.
Registered: January 24, 2009
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I was wondering that because it was like this promo-site basically saying " DVD Out On *date* " .
Who knows the version I have had been released later.
But in this case I'm pretty sure since the other profiles of the same title all had the same release-date too.
Which were all kinds of versions, even similar to mine, but the number of mine wasn't in there.
So it was only slightly different, probably released at the same time.


This is the portion of your statement that I think cvermeylen was referring too. What people are saying is that DVD's get release on different dates depending on the country, some DVD's are release first in the USA, sometimes we get them first in the UK (Battlestar Galactica Season 4 for instance).

Some DVD's can be withdrawn due to unforeseen circumstances (The Living Daylights - Special Edition) was withdrawn from sale within it's first week due to some credit agreement (later released) but once the dispute was sorted out the DVD was "Re-Released" with one change on it.

Steve


Yes, I know.
This case though, had a small list of multiple versions (except mine) all with the same date.

But what I was saying earlier, the part you highlighted, was just saying maybe this version was simply released later or even earlier.
Without meaning it being a re-release of the title, but a first release of this version of the title.
Because you wouldn't really call a different version, already decided to be released before any release,
a re-release, but simply another edition of the same title.
If that edition would be release like a half to a whole decade later, that is certainly a re-release.
Since it's not part of that first batch of releases on home-video.

That's all I meant.
- MicHaeL
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In the UK, some retailers offer versions specific to them (containing bonus art-cards) or some other bonus. They usually have a specific UPC. Those specific releases are sold in lesser numbers as the regular releases. This could be an explanation why you can't find it in the database.

On the re-release covers, you can't contribute those, since they overwrite the original covers. This is done to avoid ping-pong contributions. You can email me any re-release covers you might have, and I'll share them on another website. You can check out this topic for more info.
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You don't have to worry about loosing any local only info... you can lock sections of the profile (like just the cover images) or the entire profile if you don't want any more updates to the profile at all... you can do this by either...

1. Right click the padlock icon and go to Lock --> all choices
2. Menu option DVD --> Lock
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