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Double Feature / Triple Feature entries - I would like clarification and consistency
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantSgtDetritus007
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Registered: October 23, 2008
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This follows from a question posted here, by Fingerlakes Dave, but it went unanswered.  I think the question stands on its own anyway.  The discussion there seems to have gotten stuck on Dave's second question (re: DiscID's). I'd like answers concerning the first. (Searched this forum, and this is the only topic anywhere close to my question - any search over 30 days times out.)

Quoting Fingerlakes Dave:
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1) Double Feature precedes the title of the two discs in the set (2 features, clam shell case) or is used as an edition? Example:  (xxx/xxx: Double Feature vs Double Feature - xxx/xxx)


First, my 2 cents: I think "Double/Triple Feature" should be Edition, not part of title, and that's the way my personal DB is set up.  I believe this is covered in the first Title rule "Never add distinguishing factors to the title (such as "Widescreen" or "Special Edition"). Use the Edition field for these".  Clearly, these are Box Sets "Sets containing 2 films, one on each side of Dual-Sided DVD", but the Title rule in Box Sets states "The title for a Box Set should be the title listed on the front cover, for example Alien Quadrilogy".  Again, not exactly clear for DF/TF sets.  Each and every one of the dozens of these sets I have has the "Double Feature" markings on the cover set off in the same place (top of the artwork) as other DVDs have "Widescreen Collection" or "Collector's Edition", followed by mini-versions of the cover art of the individual films.  Look some of these up, they all follow the same pattern.

There are many examples of both ways found throughout the database, all exactly as listed (anything after "=" are my comments):
»»» Example Title/Example Title Sequel (Edition)
• Objective Burma!/Never So Few/Go For Broke! (Triple Feature)
• Fort Worth / Colt .45 / Tall Man Riding (Triple Feature)
• Bataan/Back to Bataan (War Double Feature)
• Battle Cry / Battleground (War Double Feature)
• Jackie Chan's First Strike/Mr. Nice Guy (Action Double Feature)
• They Were Expendable/Flying Leathernecks War Double Feature = DF in title, end
• Comedy Double Feature: My Blue Heaven & The Man with Two Brains = DF in title, start
• Triple Feature - Audrey Hepburn = this is just wrong, no titles at all as on box [UPC 097361241449] 
• Once Bitten/Vampire's Kiss = missing [Totally Awesome 80s Double Feature]
• Militant Eagle / The Prodigal Boxer = missing [Martial Arts Classics Double Feature]
• Major League 2 & Major League: Back to the = missing [Minors (Comedy Double Feature)]

as well as hundreds of entries in different variations of:

• Double Feature - title/title
• Double Feature: title/title
• Double Feature title/title
• title/title: Double Feature

As you can see, there are dozens of wrong ways these have been entered, but what is the correct way?  Can we make a determination as to what we want these to look like?

» There are entries in the form: Title/Title  (no spaces)
» There are entries in the form: Title / Title  (spaces before and after "/")
» There are entries in the form: Title & Title  ("&", which I think is completely wrong)

» There are entries in the form: Title/Title (DF)  (DF in Edition box)
» There are entries in the form: DF: Title/Title  (DF placed in actual title entry, as read "literally" from cover)
» There are entries in the form: Title/Title DF  (DF placed in actual title entry, poorly placed)

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Some entries are great the way they exist, and should be left unchanged.  These are entries where the actual title of the package should have the DF/TF in the title, as in the following (where there is NOT individual film art on the cover, but pics of the star alone):
• UPC 883904101321 Bruce Willis Triple Feature, where "BRUCE WILLIS TRIPLE FEATURE" is the main selling point, followed by film titles in very small type.
• UPC 089218505798 John Wayne Triple Feature: Volume 1, where again "John WAYNE TRIPLE FEATURE: Volume 1" is the "star" of the show, followed by the film titles.
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So, the questions, I believe, are:

1. Is the "Edition" box the correct (accepted) place for "Double/Triple Feature" and its variations?
2. Do we want entries in the form "Title/Title", or "Title / Title"? Spaces or not. I have no preference, just desire consistency.
3. Should entries with "&" joining two film titles be changed to "/" (as long as the ampersand "&" is clearly not on the DVD cover)?

I know this "question" went on a while, and I appreciate your having read this far.  I'd like to get this right the first time, and then we can point contributors to this thread in the future, if that is what gets agreed upon.

THANKS in advance to the knowledgeable folks who chime in with their thoughts.

Mike
“Practically perfect people never permit sentiment to muddle their thinking.” — M. Poppins, 1964
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To be honest, I don't think we'll ever get a consistency to any major extent, as we have to rely on what is on the DVD cover for our title. What is printed on there dictates how we enter it into the database.
I couldn't even say for certain that something like "Double Feature" should always be in the Edition field, as I'm sure there will be circumstances where it will be more appropriate to have it in the Title field.
Certainly the covers you describe it does sound like the best place for it.

I do see your point about standardising the title separator, where no separator is found on the cover. That could be useful. My personal vote goes for : "Title/Title", no spaces - simply to minimise the amount of room taken up in the field - more left for the actual titles!

PS. Make sure you keep that head cold! 
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