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| Registered: May 9, 2007 |  Posts: 254 |
| | Posted: | | | | Before I go to what looks likely to be alot of work, I want to make sure I have this right.
I own alot of anime, and there are many American voice actors that, usually for contractual reasons, use several aliases. I want to start linking the ones that I know about together using the "credited as" feature and then contributing them (with proper documentation, of course).
Here's the thing... Making an example of Steven Blum.
Normally I would use the CLT to determine the most commonly credited name. In Mr. Blums case, that would be "David Lucas".
CLT Results:
Steven Blum 93/139
Steven Jay Blum 82/111
Steve Blum 54/64
David Lucas 181/197
Andrew Watton 20/21
Daniel Andrews 1/1
(Yes, they are all the same person)
My take on it is that even though the CLT shows "David Lucas" as the most commonly credited variant, I should, in fact, use the most common variant of his ACTUAL name - in this case, "Steven Blum". I say this based on the rule: "Use the "Credited As" field where the person's name differs from the credited name."
Before I start making these changes I want to be 100% sure I've got this right. So what say you?
And thanks in advance for your thoughts. | | | | "I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world because they'd never expect it." - Jack Handey |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,819 |
| | Posted: | | | | Personally I use the CLT as guidance.
If you can document (with links to other sites (that aren't IMDB) etc) what his most common name is then you can list that in your contribution notes to support the changes.
If the CLT is giving a different result to what you believe to be true you can still attempt the change if you provide supporting evidence....but, in those cases, I would also suggest you change the other titles you have so that the CLT starts to reflect the correct information.
I have come across occasions when the CLT indicates one name as being the most popular - but that is simply because people haven't been taking the details from the actual film credits.
For example: (fictional to make a point)
A. Smith is the most common credited name.
The CLT indicates the following:
Andrew Smith 93/160
A. Smith 89/150
Going on the above Andrew Smith would appear to be the common name.
However....if some of the 93/160 profiles have him as Andrew when, in fact, he is credited onscreen as A. Smith then the result would be incorrect; and with some changes to profiles could be corrected.
Hope that makes sense. |
| | Registered: May 9, 2007 | | Posts: 254 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would just use the CLT myself (I normally do). But in this case I'm thrown off by the Line, "Use the "Credited As" field where the person's name differs from the credited name."
In my example, the persons real name is Steven Blum. So, even though he is most often credited as David Lucas, it seems I should still use Steven Blum as the common name. My reasoning is that when he is credited in a show as Steven Blum, then his name doesn't differ from the credited name, and so, as I read the rule, I wouldn't use Credited As in that case. This means, to link his credits, I have to use Credited As when he is credited with his more common name, David Lucas...
I'm beginning to think that I'm overthinking this... | | | | "I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world because they'd never expect it." - Jack Handey |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,394 |
| | Posted: | | | | Broven,
You are overthinking this. First off, you should know that we aren't concerned with a person's real name. That isn't really necessary, and is why the "common name" concept is used. The Common Name is that name by which a person is most often credited and allows users to link all the titles in which that person is credited. It doesn't have to be his birth or legal name. In fact, unless the person is credited most often using his real name, it only confuses things to use it as the common name because most people wouldn't recognize him by that name anyway (d.g., Marion Morrison, Archie Leach, Leonard Slye). | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges.
DVD Profiler user since June 15, 2001 |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 17,329 |
| | Posted: | | | | Ken is right. I remember Ken saying more then once that it don't matter what the real name is. Just how they are most commonly credited. Ken even stated he wouldn't take the actor's own signature over the most commonly credited form. | | | | Pete |
| | Registered: May 9, 2007 | | Posts: 254 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thank you for the input.  What you're saying makes perfect sense. Perhaps the wording of the rule needs some tweeking, but that's a whole other topic that I have little interest in getting into right now. | | | | "I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world because they'd never expect it." - Jack Handey |
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