From the rules -

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If a film does not have standard credits, use the following rules:

    * If a film has actors listed in the opening credits, which are not listed in the end credits, add these to the list in DVD Profiler before those taken from the end credits.
    * If a film has no end credits, but does have actors credited elsewhere, enter the actors from those credits.
    * If an actor is credited by name but does not have an associated role, you may use another source to identify the role. In each case, list Actor’s names and roles (when given) exactly as they are in the credits and in exactly the same order credited.

From that, I personally would say to credit them.

I had a similar situation with the documentary "Endurance".  I ended up listing those not in the end credits in order of appearance, then listing those in the end credits afterwards.  (The conversation concerning that is here.  It's short, but amusing...)

Quoting Broven:

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I had a similar situation with the documentary "Endurance".  I ended up listing those not in the end credits in order of appearance, then listing those in the end credits afterwards.  (The conversation concerning that is here.  It's short, but amusing...)

Not sure I agree with your approach, but I certainly appreciate the information.

Since the rules insist the "credits" are the primary source, I'm leaning toward submitting with those appearing in the credits first, then others in order of appearance (not flagged uncredited) with explanation and documentation, and see where the votes go.

Thanks to you both.

Quoting Tracer:

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Enter them in the order in which they are credited.  If they are credited in the film before the end credits they should go before those that are credited in the end credits.

Extending that logic, if cast is credited in the opening credits, they go first.  Yes?

Yes, so assuming that no one is double-credited, I'd put them in this order:

People in opening credits
People not in opening or end credits but credited onscreen, in the order they appear
People in ending credits

This is an issue very frequently with documentaries, though usually they don't have opening credits, at least in my experience.

It can also come up in silent movies, where you may have a couple cast members credited in the opening, no end credits at all, and a bunch of minor players credited when their character first appears onscreen.

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Quoting Tracer:

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Enter them in the order in which they are credited.  If they are credited in the film before the end credits they should go before those that are credited in the end credits.

Extending that logic, if cast is credited in the opening credits, they go first.  Yes?

I know what you are thinking,...don't. the Rules do not read that way. Just fol;low the Rules don't start trying to interpret them.

Skip

Lighten up, Skip.  I'm just trying to understand the rules and how they are interpreted.  And yes, they do need to be interpreted, since they don't explicitly delineate the procedure for every situation.

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Yes, so assuming that no one is double-credited, I'd put them in this order:

People in opening credits
People not in opening or end credits but credited onscreen, in the order they appear
People in ending credits

This is an issue very frequently with documentaries, though usually they don't have opening credits, at least in my experience.

It can also come up in silent movies, where you may have a couple cast members credited in the opening, no end credits at all, and a bunch of minor players credited when their character first appears onscreen.

That's how I've always done them and that's the way I've seen others do it as well.  I guess if this is a big sticking issue with some members we could always ask Ken or Geri how we should handle those credited in between the opening and ending credits.