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Monty Python and the Holy Grail / Crew list
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
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Hello just saw an update for 4030521141643, where the role names differed from the existing profile. So I tried to check who was correct.
The funny thing is neither of the contributions was right. In the credits there are no roles attached to the actors.
My question now is how to contribute this:
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributornorthbloke
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According to the rules there's nothing wrong with getting role names from an alternative source if there are none in the actual credits.
In this particular case, the person changing the role names would need to have a very good reason to change them if there's nothing to match to.
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here is the rule that effects this...

If an actor is credited by name but does not have an associated role, you may use another source to identify the role. In each case, list Actor’s names and roles (when given) exactly as they are in the credits and in exactly the same order credited.

bold by me...

so if it was a title I was voting on it would depend on the source and reasoning used. I agree that there would need to be good reasoning behind because this is something that can easily cause ping-pong contributions.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
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The thing is that many of the role names are more like job descriptions (e.g. The Dead Body that claimes it isn't), and the contributor tried to change them because they don't always fit into the fields.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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the contributor is changing roles that are too long to shortened versions?  to me that is acceptable reasoning... so the next thing I would look at is source. all contributions must be sourced... in such a case if they are sourced (other then imdb) and has a decent reason such as this I would vote yes.
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ROFLMAO, As Credited Llamas and all.

Skip
ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here

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Don't forget the Moose(s)!

Also, actors could be named by something they said: "I'm not dead yet!"
Bad movie?  You're soaking in it!
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My sister was bitten by a moose once...
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributoreggerty
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No realli! She was Karving her initials on the møøse
with the sharpened end of an interspace tøøthbrush given
her by Svenge - her brother-in-law - an Oslo dentist and
star of many Norwegian møvies: "The Høt Hands of an Oslo
Dentist", "Fillings of Passion", "The Huge Mølars of Horst
Nordfink"...

Sorry, couldn't resist.
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Nee!
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
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Not to forget the moose special make up artist.

BTW: Those who mentioned a moose or the LLamas are all sacked
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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And now for something completely different: Back to topic!

The source given was a Wikipedia article that, at a quick glance, didn't have a role name roster but a paragraph that contained some descriptions of the roles played by the Pythons. I voted "No" on said contribution as the source was a single third party database and the role names mentioned there were no better than the existing ones.

If anything, you should take the current credits and list the actors several times to be able to fit all the roles currently mentioned (and maybe some more, I don't think the list is anywhere near complete).

BTW, my name is Darxon, and I can not be seen.
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ROFLMAO, As Credited Llamas and all.

Skip

I would love for someone to explain to me just exactly what is offensive about the above comment.

Skip    
ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here

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I dunno, but then again, I ain't no Llama either, so I wouldn't know how, if and when someone could hurt their feelings

Shrug it off, it's not worth the extra time
Lutz
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Quoting skipnet50:
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Quoting skipnet50:
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ROFLMAO, As Credited Llamas and all.

Skip

I would love for someone to explain to me just exactly what is offensive about the above comment.

Skip    


Don't tell me you got a negative on this one?
Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
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Obviously he did. Probably by someone who didn't know what Skip was writing about.
Sad but true, there are a lot of people who don't know what to do if someone's holding up a sandal. (OK other movie)
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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