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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantkahless
TaH pagh taHbe'!
Registered: March 14, 2007
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Quoting skipnet50:
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Especially by those, kahless. I say this based on long history of the users to which I refer, who shall remain nameless. But I will wait and see. Its Ken's baby and as always I try to follow where he goes.

Skip


Agree, skipnet50 - we ALL should consider this as a chance to reconsider our original aims within this forums?! 
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I like this idea...my only advice would be to make it even more strict. As someone early in the thread said, not too many of us post enough times a day to be affected by the first couple of tiers of negativity.
"I am Andrew Ryan and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his own brow?

No, says the man in Washington. It belongs to the poor.
No, says the man in the Vatican. It belongs to God.
No, says the man in Moscow. It belongs to everyone.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose…
Rapture."
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantchibul
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Quoting skipnet50:
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Interesting concept, but I predict that it will fall out of control, as there are those whose hatred is so great and sick that they will jump on anything, not unlike several users whom I see bringing their personal agendas to the voting system . Abuse of it will be rampant.

Skip


Translation: "Oh sh*t, I'm screwed."

All in jest, of course - no hostility here.
"I am Andrew Ryan and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his own brow?

No, says the man in Washington. It belongs to the poor.
No, says the man in the Vatican. It belongs to God.
No, says the man in Moscow. It belongs to everyone.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose…
Rapture."
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantchibul
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Quoting Unicus69:
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Quoting Dr. Killpatient:
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Since people who abuse the system run the risk of being punished including having their ability to vote down other users removed, this should provide the balance in keeping the system as a whole from failing.  But without the abuse preventive measures, I agree that the system would fail.


Very well said Doc.  With few exceptions, I have yet to see someone attacked for a helpful post.  I don't see why anyone would belive that is going to change.  With the proper monitoring, people should only get 'tagged' when they deserve it.


Agreed. I think this is a good system, and even for the naysayers, worthy of a trial run at the least.

This may have been answered already, Ken, but are the positive & negative votes anonymous, or can the person you're giving a mark to see who you are? I can see advantages for seeing positive and not seeing negative...curious.
"I am Andrew Ryan and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his own brow?

No, says the man in Washington. It belongs to the poor.
No, says the man in the Vatican. It belongs to God.
No, says the man in Moscow. It belongs to everyone.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose…
Rapture."
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Very amusing, Ross, despite the smiley. as usual you are wrong.

Skip<shakes head>
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Quoting chibul:
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Translation: "Oh sh*t, I'm screwed."

All in jest, of course - no hostility here.


Ok. I called Skip out for his useless comment in your thread about your TV, but now, what you just did was just as uncalled for. No matter if you intended it as a joke or not.

You would just have a gotten a negative vote for that comment from me.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMark Harrison
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I don't see this as a waste of Ken's programming time.  I'm thinking this will free him from constantly monitoring the forums to make sure things aren't getting out of hand.

It will also allow him to automate the "bad guy" so he doesn't have to be it.  Because it seems quite clear that Ken doesn't make a very good "bad guy".
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantDr. Killpatient
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Quoting chibul:
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I like this idea...my only advice would be to make it even more strict. As someone early in the thread said, not too many of us post enough times a day to be affected by the first couple of tiers of negativity.

I second this.  Using Skip as an example since I believe he has the most posts of any user, he's averaging 21.98 posts per day.  So it looks like the low cap of 20 posts per day will probably only hit a very few number of users.
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Invelos Software, Inc. RepresentativeGerri Cole
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Quoting Dr. Killpatient:
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Quoting chibul:
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I like this idea...my only advice would be to make it even more strict. As someone early in the thread said, not too many of us post enough times a day to be affected by the first couple of tiers of negativity.

I second this.  Using Skip as an example since I believe he has the most posts of any user, he's averaging 21.98 posts per day.  So it looks like the low cap of 20 posts per day will probably only hit a very few number of users.


If you are using the post count listed by their name, keep in mind that this count does not include votes on contributions or contribution submission, which in this system will count towards the 20 per day.

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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorlyonsden5
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Quoting Dr. Killpatient:
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I second this.  Using Skip as an example since I believe he has the most posts of any user, he's averaging 21.98 posts per day.  So it looks like the low cap of 20 posts per day will probably only hit a very few number of users.


As Ken pointed out "contributions and contribution votes count towards those limits". There are many days when I have a dozen titles to vote on, and that's with my collection of around 1000. I'm sure there are those who have 20 titles plus to vote on daily.

Ken also said he is keeping it flexible and subject to change as they "fine tune" the system.

Looking forward to it myself, although with the forum blocks I have in place I don't see myself using it too much. 


EDIT: Gerri beat me to it 
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Quoting lyonsden5:
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Looking forward to it myself, although with the forum blocks I have in place I don't see myself using it too much. 

Even if you block people for whom you might give negative feedback, you will still be able to give positive feedback.
...James

"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan
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should provide a calming influence. Hopefully.

and hopefully longer lasting than the influence of the ability to ban people had.
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would this system be used to lend support to someone's tip or idea?
For example, if someone asked how they would do a particular thing in the program, and someone else replied with a particularly good tip - is that when you would give a positive vote, or is that the wrong thing to do?
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorm.cellophane
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Quoting northbloke:
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would this system be used to lend support to someone's tip or idea?
For example, if someone asked how they would do a particular thing in the program, and someone else replied with a particularly good tip - is that when you would give a positive vote, or is that the wrong thing to do?

I think that's exactly the intention of the positive end of this:

Quoting Ken Cole:
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We'll soon roll out a new system intended to reward positive helpful posts in our forums, and to deter negativity.
...James

"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorhal9g
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As I understand it, helpful posts would qualify for positive feedback.

So yes.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorhal9g
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Ken,

I can't believe that after four pages, no one has asked when "soon" is.

So, when is "soon"? 
Hal
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