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Dambusters Documentary
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Would just like some advise, i am watching this and making notes of the people that appear in the programme some are mentioned by the narrator some have there names appear on screen the one's that are mentioned by the narrator i will mark as uncredited but what about the one's who's names appear on screen is this considered to be a credit or should they also be marked uncredited.
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In my opinion at least... I think that would fall within these rule...
"If a film has no end credits, but does have actors credited elsewhere, enter the actors from those credits. "
and

"If a film has actors listed in the opening credits, which are not listed in the end credits, add these to the list in DVD Profiler before those taken from the end credits."

So I would think that you would not have to add uncredited to them as it is shown that if someone is not credited within the end credits... but elsewhere (beginning credits) is ok... I don't see why this would not be.

any other opinions?
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You're referring to names appearing on screen throughout the programme, I reckon? E.g. when someone is being interviewed the name of that person appears on screen at the beginning of the interview? I've seen that in some of my DVDs as well.

So far I have treated those as Pete suggests: treat them as regular credits, but after the end credits. The rules do not really cover the situation where there are both end credits and credits elsewhere in the programme, but not as opening credits. My line of reasoning is this: if there are no opening credits, but there are both end credits and some of these "interviewee" credits somewhere in the middle of the programme, the latter should be regarded as less "important" than the "real" end credits. Typically, the end credits might contain just a narrator or interviewer for Cast and then all the Crew credits. I think in such cases it is justified to include the "interviewee" credits after the narrator/interviewer.

The ones that are mentioned by the narrator (but not displayed on screen) could in principle be treated the same way (the rules just talk about being "credited elsewhere" - they do not stipulate in what way people should be credited). Spelling of names might however be a problem. You may need to do some research to find out how their names are spelled properly. If so, please mention your sources in your contribution notes.
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The only one in the end credits is Geoffrey Palmer as the narrator all others are only there during the programme i was going to put the one's credited on screen after Geoffrey Palmer and then the one's only mentioned by the narrator in alphabetical order after those and marked uncredited but if you think that them being mentioned in commentary would be considered a credit then i would just put them all in the order they appear in the programme.

I am also doing online searches to find the correct spelling of the names.
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This is not uncommon for documentaries to not list those being interviewed in the end credits.  I don't list them as uncredited since they are credited just not as you would normally expect in a feature film.  I credit them as they are credited in the order they are credited during the documentary.

For the verbal credit, it is still a credit but, probably safe to just list as uncredited.  If the documentary has Closed Captions or subtitles, that might help you with the spellings.
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I treat them as credits, listed after anyone from opening or end credits
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Thanks for the help 
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