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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,480 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bbousquet: Quote:
If a film's credits include a band, how should it be entered in DVD Profiler?
Option A:
<BandName> Themselves
That's what I would choose if they are credited as a band. Listing individuals as uncredited would be fine with me. Quoting RHo: Quote:
We could of course argue that we do not credit neither animals nor bands. 
Ooh, but you didn't hear that from me. I once took the side of not crediting inanimate objects and was whipped with a switch.  So now I'm properly reprogrammed to credit whatever is credited.  | | | ...James
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,480 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote:
As long as it was YOU that was whippid with a switch, NOT the animals!  No animals or inanimate objects were harmed during my whipping. Well, maybe the switch.  | | | ...James
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting m.cellophane: Quote:
Ooh, but you didn't hear that from me. I once took the side of not crediting inanimate objects and was whipped with a switch. So now I'm properly reprogrammed to credit whatever is credited. At least for crew, I'm still not crediting animals. EDIT: not even specially trained ones. | | | | Last edited: by RHo |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,432 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Lopek: Quote:
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Aerosmith exists as identity seperate from Steven Tyler. So it could be argued that Steven Tyler wasn't actually credited, only his orginazation. But I really don't want to start of fight over it. 
I agree. I see no problem having them included as uncredited if someone is willing to document them. I agree as well. If Aerosmith (only) was shown in the credits roll, then that's what the Cst list should show. However, if the band is shown in the film, then you could add the members as uncredited entries. Documentation for this appears to be very easy... | | | Achim [諾亞信； Ya-Shin//Nuo], a German in Taiwan.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,414 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would include the members as uncredited with proper documentation. | | | | "This movie has warped my fragile little mind." |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting gardibolt: Quote:
I would include the members as uncredited with proper documentation. I agree. | | | | Hal |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting gardibolt: Quote:
I would include the members as uncredited with proper documentation. I wouldn't do it this way, but I would not vote 'no' if someone else decided to do it. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,372 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting detlefs: Quote:
I think they should be entered exactly as they are credited in the movie.
Of cource, if the band members are not listed separately, they as well can be added as Uncredited, but one must make sure to verify that all members really appear in the film agree |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,245 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree with those that say that band members should be credited. As long as documentation is provided.
There is a growing number of band members who have or are acting in film/tv series.
For instance, back in the 90's one of the biggest bands was NSYNC. One of the members was Justin Timberlake. He has gone on to act in several films including Alpha Dog, Black Snake Moan, Edison (Force), On the Line, Shrek the Third and Southland Tales.
Now, if their are profiles in which NSYNC appears and they are only credited as a band and not including the individual band members then their would be no way to properly link Justin Timberlake to his appearances in those films or tv series. It would be incomplete to say the least.
So by not using a credit for the individual band member will result in an incomplete linkage to their other appearances in other films or tv series. |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think a better solution would be to ask Ken to create a form of "group cast" entry, where you can link more than one person to a single credit entry.
So you would still enter "NSYNC as themselves" (or whatever it would be) but you could then tell Profiler which people are in NSYNC and a search on their names would also bring up the group credits. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,311 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CubbyUps: Quote:
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Now, if their are profiles in which NSYNC appears and they are only credited as a band and not including the individual band members then their would be no way to properly link Justin Timberlake to his appearances in those films or tv series. It would be incomplete to say the least.
... Even though I personally do not agree it should be uncredited... I see that as totally wrong since they are credited... under the group name... I see the following as less wrong. Justin Timberlake (NSYNC) as Themselves Using the credited as system. I see this as following the rules much closer then putting someone as uncredited when they are actually credited... When checking the lookup tool I even see... NSYNC - 1 title Justin Timberlake - 87 titles so seems to confirm to the rules much better then saying they are uncredited when they actually are credited as the band name. at ;east till we get... Quoting northbloke: Quote:
I think a better solution would be to ask Ken to create a form of "group cast" entry, where you can link more than one person to a single credit entry.
So you would still enter "NSYNC as themselves" (or whatever it would be) but you could then tell Profiler which people are in NSYNC and a search on their names would also bring up the group credits. I personally think this would be ideal. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | you could of course make use of this section of the rules and go to the band website or fansite or whatever and fill the roles in of the band members, lead singer, bass guitar, ...: Quote:
If an actor is credited by name but does not have an associated role, you may use another source to identify the role. In each case, list Actor’s names and roles (when given) exactly as they are in the credits and in exactly the same order credited. | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,311 |
| | Posted: | | | | if I am not mistaken (I could be wrong)... but the listing that brought this topic back up is
Violent Femmes as Themselves
... so they already are credited (group credit) and have a role attached. Though I can't be a completely sure as it has been a long time since I watched that episode of Sabrina: The Teenage Witch. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: May 22, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,033 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
I think a better solution would be to ask Ken to create a form of "group cast" entry, where you can link more than one person to a single credit entry.
So you would still enter "NSYNC as themselves" (or whatever it would be) but you could then tell Profiler which people are in NSYNC and a search on their names would also bring up the group credits. As I was reading the post before this I was just thinking basically the same thing. So I'll support this idea as well -Agrare |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,311 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree that would be ideal... though I would add that not only searching under the people's names would bring up this credit... but also searching the group name would still bring up these credits as well. | | | | Pete |
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