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Black Adder: The Complete Collector's Set - Which rules to follow, Box Set or TV Series?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorBodi
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This is regarding the Region 1 Set, UPC 794051156327

On the one hand it's a TV series so you'd think you would follow the rules for TV series but on the other hand it's the whole series so do you apply this rule?:

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Note: In rare cases where multiple Complete TV Series are packaged together, the Box-set rules can be applied, treating each series like a single film - applying the above rules for it’s individual profile.


The only thing is that this isn't really 5 seperately packaged seasons just slapped together and sold as one which seems like that is what the rule is referring to. This set is actually a seperate release with unique packaging albeit it is the same as the individual discs that are sold seperately with their own UPC's.
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Well, the box set rules for movies include digipaks, where the standalone releases might be in keep cases. I would apply the same criteria here.
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Yes, apply the rule, Bodi. It's a multi-season set. Parent profile with child profiles for each season.
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Personally I would recommend that you use the modified TV set rules since some TV collectors do not want child profiles.
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Yeah, I think that this set falls under the rules for TV sets and not Box Set rules but it all depends on that rule.
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Under the TV Series Rules:

"In rare cases where multiple Complete TV Series are packaged together, the Box-set rules can be applied, treating each series like a single film - applying the above rules for it’s individual profile"

This is one of those cases: there are multiple series in one collection; it doesn't matter if they are available separately or not.
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What does packaged together mean?

Does that mean taking each individual season boxset putting em in one big boxset and selling everything together? You still have each individual season the way it was sold seperately. Or does it mean anytime that a whole series is put in one collection?

This Black Adder set is the whole collection but it isn't just the individual season/series sets packaged together in one boxset. You don't get the cases and artwork etc. that you would if you bought them seperately. The discs are the same but the boxset has unique packaging.

Anyways it would be nice to get some clarification regarding this from some who actually wrote this rule.
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Quoting Bodi:
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What does packaged together mean?


You pick it up off the shelf and it's in shrinkwrap... if there's more than one series inside the shrinkwrap then the series are packaged together - it doesn't even matter whether the series are sold separately or only available in one "complete collection" (IMO)
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We used to use that part of the rule for complete series collections but, after Ken okay'd the use of child profiles for TV series it made most complete TV collections useless. Since most collections relied on the same Disc IDs that now the child IDs for season sets now rely on.

The best thing for this series set would be to treat it like any other TV set.  There are only five discs I believe anyway which isn't much different than you'll find in a seaon set.  Create child profiles for each disc using Disc ID with the features, cast and crew for each disc.  The parent should have all the features, cast and crew found on all discs.

I have already contributed the cast and crew for the Black Adder disc that were sold individually so you could download those discs to get the cast and crew info.
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Quoting Tracer:
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We used to use that part of the rule for complete series collections but, after Ken okay'd the use of child profiles for TV series it made most complete TV collections useless. Since most collections relied on the same Disc IDs that now the child IDs for season sets now rely on.

The best thing for this series set would be to treat it like any other TV set.  There are only five discs I believe anyway which isn't much different than you'll find in a seaon set.  Create child profiles for each disc using Disc ID with the features, cast and crew for each disc.  The parent should have all the features, cast and crew found on all discs.

I have already contributed the cast and crew for the Black Adder disc that were sold individually so you could download those discs to get the cast and crew info.


I would have to agree with this.
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Me too.
The rule about treating multi-season box sets as normal box sets was set up mainly for US TV series, where you're looking at hundreds of episodes.
However in this case, you're looking at a grand total of 26 - very similar to only 1 US season.
Also note that the rule about treating them as normal box sets says "can be", not "must be".
It's optional - so if you want to do the extra work, there's nothing wrong with that!
PS - that's how the UK version of the box set is profiled.
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I am of the mind that the Black Adder Complete Collectors Set should be treated more correctly as a box set, based in part on it being available the same day and date as individual season packages, that other than by the whim of the studio this could easily have been a simpe slip case over the individual seasons...a mere packaging option from making this discussion moot.

Less importantly, but contributing nonetheless, it is also a series where the cast changed each season, even the main actors played "different" characters each season.  And there were several years between seasons.  So regardless, each season stands on its own somewhat.
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A Dvdprofiler thread that solves nothing....how unusual.
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What does THE SKIP say ????? 
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forget the rules ........ Baldrick has a cunning plan
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