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Æon vs Aeon Flux |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Squirrelecto: Quote:
Quoting northbloke:
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It's a completely different issue because æ is a perfectly valid character in the english language (archæology, encylopædia etc.). It's just not used very often! Æon is also a valid alternative spelling for eon.
Edit: I only talk about the english language cos that's the language the title is in. I know that æ is a full blown letter of the alphabet for other languages.
But where is the character that combines an uppercase A with a lowercase e? Try the Windows Character Map. Æ and Profiler will read it correctly. If I recall correctly we had this discussion when the film came out, so this is OLD news and the regin 1 title has been Æon Flux for well over a Year now. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 19, 2007 |  Posts: 700 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting madacid: Quote:
In the opening-credits-Text on the backcover or on http://www.aeonflux.com/ (official webpage) you can read:
"AEON FLUX"
Well my DVD has this opening picture of the feature...:  a perfect Æ Now the new profile in Norway is released, and it is as Skip says it is in the US: Æon Flux  | | | | We are all at the same age, only at different time... |
|   | Erik | | It's a strange world. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 422 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Voltaire53: Quote:
Quoting Squirrelecto:
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But where is the character that combines an uppercase A with a lowercase e?
The Æ character IS a single character so it correctly capitalised as 'the first character' Yup, it's part of the "last three letters" you guys dumped from your alphabets.  "Æ, Ø, Å." Anyway, screen shot supplied, profile accepted, case closed. | | | Erik
"Has it ever occurred to you, man, that given the nature of all this new stuff, that, uh, instead of running around blaming me, that this whole thing might just be, not, you know, not just such a simple, but uh - you know?" -- The Dude, The Big Lebowski
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 756 |
| | Posted: | | | | UK version 5 014437 896032 has the same opening credit
ÆONFLUX (one word) | | | | Chris | | | | Last edited: by Mole |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 793 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
Quoting Squirrelecto:
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Quoting northbloke:
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It's a completely different issue because æ is a perfectly valid character in the english language (archæology, encylopædia etc.). It's just not used very often! Æon is also a valid alternative spelling for eon.
Edit: I only talk about the english language cos that's the language the title is in. I know that æ is a full blown letter of the alphabet for other languages.
But where is the character that combines an uppercase A with a lowercase e?
Try the Windows Character Map. Æ I could be wrong, but that looks awfully like an uppercase E to me Skip  Quoting oleops: Quote:
Quoting madacid:
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In the opening-credits-Text on the backcover or on http://www.aeonflux.com/ (official webpage) you can read:
"AEON FLUX"
Well my DVD has this opening picture of the feature...:
a perfect Æ
Now the new profile in Norway is released, and it is as Skip says it is in the US: Æon Flux That N is joined to the F. Where's the character for that? | | | | Last edited: by Squirrelecto |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 793 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Voltaire53: Quote:
Quoting Squirrelecto:
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But where is the character that combines an uppercase A with a lowercase e?
The Æ character IS a single character so it correctly capitalised as 'the first character' Single character but not a single letter of the alphabet. | | | | Last edited: by Squirrelecto |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 756 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Squirrelecto: Quote:
Quoting Voltaire53:
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Quoting Squirrelecto:
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But where is the character that combines an uppercase A with a lowercase e?
The Æ character IS a single character so it correctly capitalised as 'the first character'
Single character but not a single letter of the alphabet. According to the Shorter Oxford English Disctionary, 5th edition, Vol 1, page 33, column 3..... Æ is the Old English 'ash', the symbol of a simple vowel intermediate between a and e. so it is (was) a letter! | | | | Chris | | | | Last edited: by Mole |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,293 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Squirrelecto: Quote:
That N is joined to the F. Where's the character for that? IIRC if you watch the credits animated the two words do appear separated and just finish in an 'overlapping' position. | | | | It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 793 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mole: Quote:
According to the Shorter Oxford English Disctionary, 5th edition, Vol 1, page 33, column 3.....
Æ is the Old English 'ash', the symbol of a simple vowel intermediate between a and e.
so it is (was) a letter! I'm not sure you can equate 'vowel' with 'letter'. Vowels can correspond to more than one letter of the alphabet. Quote:
vowel noun 1 any speech-sound made with an open mouth and no contact between mouth, lips, teeth or tongue. 2 a letter of the alphabet, used alone or in combination, representing such a sound, in English, eg a, e, i, o, u, ai, oa and in some words y. Compare consonant.
ETYMOLOGY: 14c: from French vouel, from Latin vocalis vocal, from vox voice. http://www.chambersharrap.co.uk/chambers/features/chref/chref.py/main?query=vowel&title=21st&sourceid=Mozilla-search | | | | Last edited: by Squirrelecto |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 756 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Squirrelecto: Quote:
Quoting Mole:
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According to the Shorter Oxford English Disctionary, 5th edition, Vol 1, page 33, column 3.....
Æ is the Old English 'ash', the symbol of a simple vowel intermediate between a and e.
so it is (was) a letter!
I'm not sure you can equate 'vowel' with 'letter'. Vowels can correspond to more than one letter of the alphabet.
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vowel noun 1 any speech-sound made with an open mouth and no contact between mouth, lips, teeth or tongue. 2 a letter of the alphabet, used alone or in combination, representing such a sound, in English, eg a, e, i, o, u, ai, oa and in some words y. Compare consonant.
ETYMOLOGY: 14c: from French vouel, from Latin vocalis vocal, from vox voice.
http://www.chambersharrap.co.uk/chambers/features/chref/chref.py/main?query=vowel&title=21st&sourceid=Mozilla-search Shorter Oxford English Disctionary, 5th edition, Vol 2, page 3561, column 1..... Vowel...noun. 1. A speech sound produced by vibration of the vocal cords......; a letter of the alphabet representing such a sound  | | | | Chris | | | | Last edited: by Mole |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 793 |
| | Posted: | | | | Look at the chart on the right here (under 'Articulation'). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VowelNotice any other characters missing from our alphabet? æ is a phonetic representation of a vowel sound, same as ?, ? or ?. Not a letter of the alphabet. Looks like Invelos doesn't like those other ones and has replaced them with ? | | | | Last edited: by Squirrelecto |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 302 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mole: Quote:
UK version 5 014437 896032 has the same opening credit
ÆONFLUX (one word) i second that, because I can't see any kind of spacing between ÆON and FLUX | | | regards, Mad -
My HD-Media, DVDs, Laserdiscs |
| | Erik | | It's a strange world. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 422 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Squirrelecto: Quote:
æ is a phonetic representation of a vowel sound, same as ?, ? or ?. Not a letter of the alphabet. Your inferior alphabet, that is. Squirrelecto, I'm laughing at your so-called "superior" alphabet. (Yes, these are movie references.) | | | Erik
"Has it ever occurred to you, man, that given the nature of all this new stuff, that, uh, instead of running around blaming me, that this whole thing might just be, not, you know, not just such a simple, but uh - you know?" -- The Dude, The Big Lebowski
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
|  | t001z | | Reg: January 30, 2005 |
| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Posts: 103 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Squirrelecto: That N is joined to the F. Where's the character for that? I think I gotta agree with Squirrelecto, sure does look to me as though if you are interpreting the Ae as a single character because of this screen shot, you should be writing this up as a NF single letter.  |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 756 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting t001z: Quote:
Quoting Squirrelecto:
That N is joined to the F. Where's the character for that? I think I gotta agree with Squirrelecto, sure does look to me as though if you are interpreting the Ae as a single character because of this screen shot, you should be writing this up as a NF single letter. Nope, there's not a trace of conjoined NF in the Shorter Oxford English Dictionary, fifth edition, volume 2, etc., etc....................  | | | | Chris | | | | Last edited: by Mole |
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