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But the question is... is the profiles correct at it being locked on region 2... or did they just take that info from the back cover... and the discs are actually "no region code"? It could just be that the regions were never verified and updated (depending on the notes of the set).

The profiles are absolutely correct in the profile. I verified them last night with multiple methods.

Oddly though, the original back cover of the box set shows the Region "0" icon. The original discs however are "Region 2" locked.

I purchased this set when it was first released, so these newer Disc ID's with the different region coding are technically a re-release.

Another problem which further enforces my point:

Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 1 (DVD) is entered in the database as a Disc ID level profile (I9FDC5F4CD7CBE3FD)

I got this in a newer 2012 box set than they submitted, but the Disc ID is exactly the same as the above. My disc shows a "created date" for 1/31/2011 too, so it's an old disc. The original profile was submitted/approved on 11/22/2011.

The user who submitted it did add it into the database based on that distinct Disc ID (I9FDC5F4CD7CBE3FD)

— but when they actually added the "Disc Info" into the profile the disc had a completely different Disc ID (1E501B9B1666C5C2) for some reason. They didn't mention why in their notes, or how this happened. You can view this profile in the database if you are confused by what I mean.

There's only been the original submission of the profile, so the Disc ID wasn't replaced by anyone after the fact.

The problem is that the Features, Audio Tracks & Subtitles are all different on the exact Disc ID (I9FDC5F4CD7CBE3FD) which the profile was entered as. Apparently the original contributor had an alternate DVD/Disc ID which differed from this, and they based those technical specs on that disc.

So, I am submitting it back to the "original" Disc ID with the corrected Features/Audio/Subtitles as this matches the original Disc ID as it was added into the database.

Wow, that was confusing to explain.

Thank you for finally looking at this Ken!

So if I understand correctly... if the content is the same then adding the alternate disc ID is correct. But if the content is different (different aspect ratio, different extras or what have you) then make a new profile for the disc. 

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We allow submission of alternate IDs in the Disc ID section for UPC-based profiles, so I don't see a good reason to disallow this for Disc-ID based profiles.

One note: If the Disc ID is different. then the disc is definitely not an identical match.  There's some difference, be it in content or creation date.  If that difference manifests in a way that's tracked in DVD Profiler, it should be entered as an independent profile under the new Disc ID.

I see two problems:
1) How can we verify in the voting process if the proposed new disc id is correct?

2) It happened that someone make a new profile by cloning a different edition and forget to change of disc id.
In this case the right disc id should overwright the existing wrong id, but the only way to be sure that the new is correct is the voting process.

Quoting Kluge:

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1) How can we verify in the voting process if the proposed new disc id is correct?

We can't. Just as we can't verify them on UPC-based profiles, so nothing new there.

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2) It happened that someone make a new profile by cloning a different edition and forget to change of disc id.
In this case the right disc id should overwright the existing wrong id, but the only way to be sure that the new is correct is the voting process.

Again: the Disc-ID in the Disc-Section is never "overwritten" in the sense that the old one is no longer available, it just get added.

E.g.: a profile with the UPC 123456789012 contains a disc with the Disc-ID AAAA. Whoever inserts this disc in his computer and chooses "Add by Disc-ID" gets the profile 123456789012 as a download option.
Now someone submits the profile again with Disc-ID BBBB. Henceforth everyone who puts either disc into his computer gets the profile 1234567879012.


cya, Mithi

I don't know if you do like me... and always put your disc in to be sure that you have the same disc id... or to update yours if not. But the disc id section has an automatic lock when you at least change something on it. Not sure about if it locks if it is the same or not (I think it should). But once you do this... recording the disc id you don't have to worry about it getting overwritten since the field is locked.

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1) How can we verify in the voting process if the proposed new disc id is correct?

We can't. Just as we can't verify them on UPC-based profiles, so nothing new there.

We can (and we should) verify the corrections on UPC-based profiles, checking our own disc, the contribute of an alternative ID should work like a completely new contribution.
I can't check (and vote) something that I can't verify.

No alternate disc ids are not to be completely new contributions... matter fact the rules have said so for years...

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If your Disc ID differs from the Disc ID in the main database, you may change it and re-contribute it. All Disc IDs are stored in the main database and are used for disc identification within DVD Profiler.

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Quoting Kluge:

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1) How can we verify in the voting process if the proposed new disc id is correct?

We can't. Just as we can't verify them on UPC-based profiles, so nothing new there.

We can (and we should) verify the corrections on UPC-based profiles, checking our own disc, the contribute of an alternative ID should work like a completely new contribution.
I can't check (and vote) something that I can't verify.

No alternate disc ids are not to be completely new contributions... matter fact the rules have said so for years...

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If your Disc ID differs from the Disc ID in the main database, you may change it and re-contribute it. All Disc IDs are stored in the main database and are used for disc identification within DVD Profiler.

I know that now it works in this way, but what the point? It's meaningless ask a vote for something unverifiable, isn't it?

Furthermore now I see contribution like the post up, what should I vote?