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Then this comment on June 12 at 1008 pm

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He's back. 

How would any of you have taken this.

You're right, that was uncalled for and I red flagged it when I read it, as did most people here probably. There is no place for that kind of sentiment at any time.

I would have commented on it, but there was this response from a member who posted before I had the chance to.

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Quoting Grendell:

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    He's back. 

And what exactly might this post be good for???       

So he has been defended also.

This will be my last direct discussion with you Skip.

First, I did not apologize to the forum for my previous post. If you will re-read it, it notes that the post I was going to write would be off-topic.

As far as not communicating with you via a private message - the topics I am discussing are the result of things that were published in the forums. Therefore, I feel that this is the correct venue for my postings.

I spent close to an hour going through the posts that both you and I have made in these forums. I suggest you do the same. Compare them side by side.

I do not call people names, get nasty, use foul language or put down their ideas. Can you say the same? I am not going to quote you, there are so many examples of your animosity I wouldn't know where to start.

No one else comes close to posting the type and numbers of mean spirited and cruel remarks you make to others. Remember telling me I "raped the database"?  Or calling people "idiots"? Or saying "You have your head up yiour nether regions.."?

I would like you to find even one comment of mine that comes close to your so called "insulting game". The only thing I have done is to use YOUR words against you. If you read my posts carefully, I do not resort to name calling or cruel remarks. And, if I ever did, I would most certainly apologize and take extra care that I did not do that again.

"Enforcer of the forums"? What are you talking about? Ken, or anyone else for that matter, has not contacted me or influenced me in any way.

I have been an active member of this community for many years. I tried, many times and in many ways, via the forums and private messages to reach out to you. All the effort was for naught - the animosity I saw from you did nothing but escalate to the point that I believe you were banned. And banned again.

I am not the reason you were punished Skip, you were. I feel that, like you say "I have had all I can stands, and I can't stands no more." I am tired of reading the nasty hateful comments that you continue to spew. Please stop.

Back to the OP

In all the other stuff that has been posted, did we ever come to a consensus about anything.

My opinion  "All Caps" becomes mixed case
                "all Small" becomes mixed case

Personally, since we are discussing a text base DB, all roles should be properly capitalized

Of course that is my opinion.

Charlie

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This will be my last direct discussion with you Skip.

First, I did not apologize to the forum for my previous post. If you will re-read it, it notes that the post I was going to write would be off-topic.

As far as not communicating with you via a private message - the topics I am discussing are the result of things that were published in the forums. Therefore, I feel that this is the correct venue for my postings.

I spent close to an hour going through the posts that both you and I have made in these forums. I suggest you do the same. Compare them side by side.

I do not call people names, get nasty, use foul language or put down their ideas. Can you say the same? I am not going to quote you, there are so many examples of your animosity I wouldn't know where to start.

No one else comes close to posting the type and numbers of mean spirited and cruel remarks you make to others. Remember telling me I "raped the database"?  Or calling people "idiots"? Or saying "You have your head up yiour nether regions.."?

I would like you to find even one comment of mine that comes close to your so called "insulting game". The only thing I have done is to use YOUR words against you. If you read my posts carefully, I do not resort to name calling or cruel remarks. And, if I ever did, I would most certainly apologize and take extra care that I did not do that again.

"Enforcer of the forums"? What are you talking about? Ken, or anyone else for that matter, has not contacted me or influenced me in any way.

I have been an active member of this community for many years. I tried, many times and in many ways, via the forums and private messages to reach out to you. All the effort was for naught - the animosity I saw from you did nothing but escalate to the point that I believe you were banned. And banned again.

I am not the reason you were punished Skip, you were. I feel that, like you say "I have had all I can stands, and I can't stands no more." I am tired of reading the nasty hateful comments that you continue to spew. Please stop.

<sigh> Kathy< I won't tell you my reaction to your post. All I will say is that you are so far from the mark it's not even funny, it makes me unbelievably sad to see just how far off you are. Anything else I might have to say is obviously just wasted.

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i don't ask, Kathy, I DEMAND fairness from you and anyone, If you want respect from me, well it's a two way street..

To quote Ralph Waldo Emerson:

“Men are respectable only as they respect”

Unfortunately, sir, you do not subscribe to this dogma.


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I am not sure at which point ken decided that YOU were the enforcer of the Forums...but your admitted lack a fairness earns you an F in this corner and your credibility is exceedingly low at the moment.

From what I've seen and come to know about Kathy's judgment and integrity, the corner of which you speak and proclaim to inhabit has as much validity as the corner of an outhouse.

Kathy, you'll get nowhere with this person, I suggest you rest upon the notion that you are respected here and he is not, and leave it at that. He is not worth the effort or the aggravation. The forum community stands with you on this.

In fairness to Skip, I will address this post.

First, thank you for the kind remarks on my judgment and integrity.

But, I do wish that you had stopped there in your effort to defend me. It is not kind to compare Skip's validity to an outhouse. I would be hurt if this comment, or the one questioning ones respect, were directed at me.

I will continue to hope that Skip, as well as every member of the community, will make the forums a better place.

Skip is most definitely worth the time and effort. His contributions to the implementation of this program can not be measured. He and I are going through a rough patch - it happens.

Finally, I don't want the community to stand with me...or with him. I want the community to stand together.

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You know, it is funny, When skip is here, there is always debate about rule changes and such.  They may be heated, insulting, jabs, punches kicks and eye gouges, but we always got a number of people to defend there position, or alter it based upon the arguments.  In the end, once you got through all the rhetoric, we could have a basis for a change.  While skip was "on sabbatical", there was no discussion, not much in opposing views.  Nobody seemed to care.

That's not true at all. Here is a 15 page thread that was damn civil and came to a nice conclusion with no name calling.

Here is a 4 page thread that on dividers that was debated a bit, then came to a nice close.

Here is a 5 page thread that got luke warm but not heated and led to a rules update.

It would be easy to go on.

I wish, Sam

ROFLMAO