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Quoting Ken Cole:

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At the moment, I would lean towards the current system, which allows one user to contribute links for others to benefit from, a philosophy which after all is the heart and soul of DVD Profiler.

Indeed!

I agree. A poll I made also indicated this desire of most users and I feel the same way, because I'm a blue type of guy of "To Love and Be Loved".

@ Srehtims:
In a way that makes you the exact opposite of group #1! Because the way GSyren described group #1, those are the people that don't do anything for themselves (except entering UPCs) and rely for 100% on the online database. You're doing the opposite.

Srethims is clearly a #3 as am i. In fact, ome of the people I kept in mind in designing the Rules was my friend Srethims, I was going crazy with all the various users battling over who had their name and their data in the Online and the back and forth on contributions, at the time I only had about 1100 Profiles owned and another3000 Wish listed. I knw Srethims had sevral times what I had (still does) and if i was crazy, he must have pulled out his hair.

It is for users such as srethims that I keep saying good enough is NOT good enough. It is also why I say many of the things that i say, why should he have to worry about having remember to go back and fix something that someone else couldn't get right or didn't get right. This is also why I keep saying to those who insist on sloppy documentation and bad Contributions, that we are ALL in this together and while appreciate those users who have small collections, please understand that you are as dependent on what we may or may not choose to do as we are on you to do your work correctly. Srethims should no more feel the way he does, than I should the way I feel or even richie. I will also say that ubntil my collection grew in size, 1000+, I did not even begin to comprehend the problems that people were causing by their constant battling over who got the byline. It was utter insanity. If you think I am Contributing anywhere near what I could...guess again...my detractors who have largely been responsible for this decision think this goosd for the Community? I don't..do you? You(generic) love to point fingers at me and try to make me the fallguy, but everyone is equally responsible, did I run off DanW, or Rifter, or anyone of a hundred other users I could name, no I did not, the Community did, just as you have all but run me off...except that I won't give you the satisfaction of disappearing.

About a year ago we had an old user suddenly show up and start demanding that HIS old profiles be restored because after all he did them FIRST. Needless to say most of his work was declined and sadly he didn't stick around very long, but that is the kind of nonsense I have seen for years, not unlike the user who is inflating his own Contributions numbers with repeated Contributions to the same titles to bolster his own ego, as he all but admitted to me.

So come on guys, this is a team effort, we have Rules that really aren't that hard, we have to all pull together to make this thing work.

I will add that like Srethims I do my own linking here, I consider the CLT to be near worthless in its current form, especially with users assuming that all credit lists everywhere are the same for every copy of every film, to me that is as useless as those that have corrupted the database with IMDb data and gotten away with it. My database is based on REAL hard data, not data which I have cooked up, or data which i have tried to twist, I manipulate my data quite freely, but it is all based on REAL data, INCLUDING typos (unless they are mine, lol). And I have ALL of my data documented fo reference, yes, my own to be sure, but my documentation is far more detailed then even my Contribution Notes...it's probably a useless attempt for myself, but this stems from stumbling across one of my old College textbooks and like many other students I wrote my notes in the book...I look at them now and wonder what in the name of God I was trying to say to myself...this was a loooong time ago, of course. So I am trying to be very clear with my documentation.<gulp>
Skip

I try to be a 2, though once I start working on a profile I try to get it right, making me a 3.  But the more I hang out in the forum and see the abuse heaped on people who are trying to make this work, the more I want to be a 1 and just not bother. 


And the linking is a critical part of how the program works, as far as I'm concerned.  The linking needs to be there, and function properly.  The way it is now has its drawbacks but it's a heck of a lot better than no linking at all.  Add an option for the "as credited" crowd to make all their links stop working, fine.  Options are great.  But the functionality needs to be retained for the rest of us.

I am a 2, but I love Documentaries and I find a lot of them are not in the DB.  I have had only limited success having the profiles I make being approved.  I have printed and read - and highlited - the submission guidlines and possibly the approval rate will improve.

**********No personal attacks***********

I find myself a 1. I will contribute if a movie is not in your database. other than that I don't need the hassle.

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How about I phrase it this way... Skip claims that he actually wrote the rules.

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In fact, ome of the people I kept in mind in designing the Rules

Can anyone from Invelos state if this is actually true?

It's a fair question.

Yes for a short answer, but actually, Skip headed up a group of users back at InterVocative that developed the first draft of the rules. If you look at the old boards, there was quite a bunch of noise made about a "secret committee" that made the rules. In actual fact, the quality of contributions increased a bunch when the rules were implemented by Ken.