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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
All these problems come about because people can't (or won't) see a difference between a logo and a title.
Meangirls is a logo, the title is Mean Girls
L4yer Cake is a logo, the title is Layer Cake
T4xi is a logo, the title is Taxi 4
Whether we can recreate the logo or not textually should be irrevelvant to these discussions, but the insistence that the only source for a title is the front cover is the biggest stumbling block.
It's painfully obvious that the designers are extremely flexible when it comes to putting titles on covers, our rules should reflect that flexibility and not be so rigid. Are you stating your opinion, it sounds like a fact which you provide no support for. What is the ON SCREEN title, what is the copyrighted title or something. If that's your opinion, north, that's fine, but you are stating it as fact. Star Trek IS a logo. a copyrighted logo using a highly specific font style, but that logo still says Star Trek for title purposes, as it does On Screen and in the Copyright Office. Most movie titles are logos in some form, but we get filmmakers or marketing departments that decide to get all cutesy and creative. I don't even see this as a genuine issue, i see it as something that a few users with an agenda have latched onto for their own purposes. The answer to the specific question is clear and obvious from a number of different criteria. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting scotthm: Quote:
Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
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I have suffered this nonsense for a very long time from the same users in the same way. One thinks that his opinion is the gold standard of opinions... Then we have other users who just live to create the same sort of hostility they have in you... I apologize to you for their ill-behavior...
It would be very nice if discussion about other posters and their motives were discontinued. There is absolutely no need for it.
--------------- I named no one scott, but an unwarranted attack was launched upon another user and I will defend that user. Notice i am not even naming the attacked user, it's not relevant. I will do so for anyone, if someone were to attack you or insult you I would stand up for you. You post is an attack and highly insulting as ity basically excuses the behavior of those that were attacking the other user.  | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Billy Video |
| | Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | What is amazing to me is that this topic has run on for SEVEN pages!  |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | I was almost out, and they sucked me back in.  | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
|   | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,733 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote:
What is amazing to me is that this topic has run on for SEVEN pages! It is, isn't it? And that's just for "Mean Girls" vs. "Meangirls" - imagine we'd actually have a substantial problem to solve... |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
Quoting TheMadMartian:
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If the title says 'L4yer Cake', we can't enter 'Layer Cake' as there is no 'a' on the cover
If the title would say 'L4yer Cake' you might be correct. But I see 'LAYER CAKE' with a strangely formatted A and E.
The second letter in 'L4ER CAKE' matches, exactly, the number four on my computer keyboard so, please, let's not play that game.
What about the last letter? It matches exactly the 3 on my keyboard formatted upside down. But since you ignore formatting, you should enter 'L4yer Cak3'. But since this is off topic, I drop it.  Here's a very easy solution. Dump your DVD version and buy the Blu ray!  Layer Cake All Regions Released: 3/13/2007 Widescreen 2.40 | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
What about the last letter? It matches exactly the 3 on my keyboard formatted upside down. But since you ignore formatting, you should enter 'L4yer Cak3'. But since this is off topic, I drop it. If it is 'upside down', then it doesn't match exactly, now, does it? | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
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As I said... I don't even see any dark in the second word.... So you have separated the words already. Otherwise you could not say that there is no dark in the second word. I don't know about Pete, but I certainly separated the words when I read it but we aren't talking about separating the words, we are talking about how to enter them per the rules and, per the rules, there has to be a color difference before we can enter it as two words. If the title were all magenta, or all pink, I am fairly certain Pete would have given you a different answer. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting RHo:
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As I said... I don't even see any dark in the second word.... So you have separated the words already. Otherwise you could not say that there is no dark in the second word.
I don't know about Pete, but I certainly separated the words when I read it but we aren't talking about separating the words, we are talking about how to enter them per the rules and, per the rules, there has to be a color difference before we can enter it as two words. If the title were all magenta, or all pink, I am fairly certain Pete would have given you a different answer. I can absolutely guarantee it! | | | | Pete |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
I don't know about Pete, but I certainly separated the words when I read it but we aren't talking about separating the words, we are talking about how to enter them per the rules and, per the rules, there has to be a color difference before we can enter it as two words. If the title were all magenta, or all pink, I am fairly certain Pete would have given you a different answer. And that's a pity. Since you already have stated that you read two separate words before looking at the colours, there is no need to do anything more. If there are two words in the title, we enter two words into the title field. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | But that is not how the rules are written. So we go with what the rules state whether we like it or not. | | | | Pete |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Correct, pete and you are positively correct. The words are separated by color, font style. This is simply users trying to cause trouble, funny how such discussions and such people being contrary are always the same ones. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
But that is not how the rules are written. So we go with what the rules state whether we like it or not. No, the rules primarily say: "Use the title from the front cover." There is no part in the rules which says that you should not enter separate words of the title as separate words. If you read separate words you have to enter them as separate words. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | That wouldn't be exactly on the cover RHo! If it was as simple as that Ken wouldn't have felt the need to put the addition in there. But he did... so obviously he felt sometimes it should be as one word. | | | | Pete |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | You know recently a user contributed a change to the Title of Pay It Forward to Pay it Forward. I didn't, at first glance see the reason for the change. The user had not provided any detail, just that a change had been made. I voted No and requested an explanation as to why this was being done. The user offered an explanation which was correct, based on the relative size of It to the rest of the title, it was subtle but very clear once pointed out, we also now have the record of this information should someone else in the future try and change the title again, yet another reason why I keep screaming about clear and complete notes. Not it is because "I said so". | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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