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Registered: March 20, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,852 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting samuelrichardscott: Quote: So I can infer that you enjoy watching people shoot each other? If you'd like. I've seen a number of westerns with not one drop of blood visible. Quote: Take I Spit on Your Grave for example. I really like this film yet it has an incredibly difficult scene (rape) to watch. The violent revenge IS entertaining but the film plays with your emotions. It's difficult to watch, but you really like it? Whatever... --------------- |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Did you really think he would understand, hal? I could only wish. He instead views everything as a slight, an attack or an insult. Speaking for myself, There are few foeign films, using his criteria, that I could put into his top 250 and most of those would be by one particular filmmaker.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: August 23, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,656 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting scotthm: Quote: Quoting samuelrichardscott:
Quote: So I can infer that you enjoy watching people shoot each other? If you'd like. I've seen a number of westerns with not one drop of blood visible. So pretend violence is okay? Oh, wait... | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting scotthm: Quote: Quoting samuelrichardscott:
Quote: So I can infer that you enjoy watching people shoot each other? If you'd like. I've seen a number of westerns with not one drop of blood visible.
Quote: Take I Spit on Your Grave for example. I really like this film yet it has an incredibly difficult scene (rape) to watch. The violent revenge IS entertaining but the film plays with your emotions. It's difficult to watch, but you really like it? Whatever...
--------------- Scott: While i appreciate your statement and i am not a fan of gratuitous violence. The "classic" westerns just weren't realistic in that regard...see Rustler's Rhapsody... When people get shot they are going to lose bodily fluids...unless you could "shoot them in the hand". Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: March 20, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,852 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Alien Redrum: Quote: So pretend violence is okay? Oh, wait... The sad part is you see no difference between a bloodless gunfight from a '30s western and the graphic violence from todays "horror" genre. Quote: a statement insinuating that there is something wrong morally with people who enjoy the horror genre (among other genres) is about as ignorant as you can get. I was talking specifically about people who enjoy watching scenes depicting extremely graphic violence, and I don't think I mentioned morals. But I obviously hit a raw nerve and so I guess it's time to end this discussion. --------------- |
| Registered: March 20, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,852 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote: While i appreciate your statement and i am not a fan of gratuitous violence. The "classic" westerns just weren't realistic in that regard Thankfully. I wouldn't enjoy watching them if they realistically depicted men's deaths. --------------- |
| Registered: September 18, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,650 |
| Posted: | | | | Do you sleep with teddy bears and draw pictures of rainbows? | | | Last edited: by samuelrichardscott |
| Registered: August 23, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,656 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting scotthm: Quote: Quoting Alien Redrum:
Quote: So pretend violence is okay? Oh, wait... The sad part is you see no difference between a bloodless gunfight from a '30s western and the graphic violence from todays "horror" genre. Violence is violence. Back in the 30s, I promise you there were Overreacting Ollies that questioned the gunfights of that day. Quote:
Quote: a statement insinuating that there is something wrong morally with people who enjoy the horror genre (among other genres) is about as ignorant as you can get. I was talking specifically about people who enjoy watching scenes depicting extremely graphic violence, and I don't think I mentioned morals. Wait, what? You not only mentioned morals, you questioned them: " The movies being made tell you a whole lot about the people watching them, and most of it's not very good these days." Maybe you didn't say the actual word, but don't backpeddle on it now. You were totally questioning morals. Quote: But I obviously hit a raw nerve and so I guess it's time to end this discussion. That's usually a good idea when you make a blanket insinuation that's pretty retarded. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. | | | Last edited: by Alien Redrum |
| Registered: March 20, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,852 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Alien Redrum: Quote:
Quote: But I obviously hit a raw nerve and so I guess it's time to end this discussion. That's usually a good idea when you make a blanket insinuation that's pretty retarded. Raw indeed. Relax and have a nice day. --------------- |
| Registered: August 23, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,656 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting scotthm: Quote: Quoting Alien Redrum:
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Quote: But I obviously hit a raw nerve and so I guess it's time to end this discussion. That's usually a good idea when you make a blanket insinuation that's pretty retarded. Raw indeed.
Relax and have a nice day.
--------------- Please don't confuse my replies to me being mad. I'm truly not. Your attitude both amuses and frightens me. It amuses me because it's so ridiculous. It frightens me that there are still people out there ready to burn the witches and judge those that are different than them. Which, ironically, amuses me too because of the cannon fodder they provide. It's a bag of mixed emotions. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,685 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote: Quoting surfeur51:
Quote: Quoting hal9g:
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After all, I don't imagine that there are very many people in the entire world who are conversant enough in all of those languages to be able to do a very adequate job of it, and I can't imagine reading subtitles for thousands of foreign films would be anyone's first choice.
In my collection, I have 80 % of my movies which are not French, with some from Russia, Denmark, Netherlands, Korea, Mexico, not speaking of other bigger countries for movies. I have no problem to see them, with or without dubbing, and can rate as easily "Män Som Hatar Kvinnor" than "Wo hu cang long" or "True Grit". The problem I have with that list is not that it has not movies from all countries (there are probably many excellent movies I never saw...), but that there are strictly none outside English language. Awwww, poor baby, always looking to be offended and insulted. Yves, did you bother to read the letter on his website, he explains why chose to keep it to English Language films.
Skip Well, I didn't interpret Surfeur's comments as being offended or insulted. And I do understand his position. If someone really loves film it would seem strange to me to limit a best-of list in such a way that it eliminates the likes of Kurosawa, Fellini and Bergman. It would seem (to me, at least) more logical to make some other limitations if international films would make the selection too big to handle. That said, I accept his decision and I'm awed that anyone would have the tenacity to make a list that long. | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users. Gunnar |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting samuelrichardscott: Quote: Do you sleep with teddy bears and draw pictures of rainbows? The fact that you feel quite justified in mocking someone because they have a problem with graphic violence and gratuitous sex, just goes to show how successful filmmakers have been in desensitizing the general public to this stuff. I'm sorry, but I do not think that's a good thing. | | | Hal |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote: Of course, I saw that, and that is the point that is the more laughable. To choose to make a list of movies only in English shows how the author's mind is opened. His list appears to be the longest of the most trifling of all. So, because it doesn't meet your standards, the list is not worth considering? Wow...just...wow. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting samuelrichardscott: Quote: Quoting scotthm:
Quote: Quoting Alien Redrum:
Quote: Have you even seen, say, any of the Saw films, or films similar to it? No. I've read synopses of some (and similar films) and have concluded that I'm not interested, but I don't see any need for you to get offended that I don't share your fascination with the macabre.
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I don't find the fact you're not interested offensive but the fact that you judge people on liking movies you haven't actually seen. Agreed...especially when he owns films like Jurassic Park, which contains more violence and suffering than Saw does. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
| Registered: March 10, 2009 | Posts: 2,248 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote: Quoting samuelrichardscott:
Quote: Quoting scotthm:
Quote: Quoting Alien Redrum:
Quote: Have you even seen, say, any of the Saw films, or films similar to it? No. I've read synopses of some (and similar films) and have concluded that I'm not interested, but I don't see any need for you to get offended that I don't share your fascination with the macabre.
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I don't find the fact you're not interested offensive but the fact that you judge people on liking movies you haven't actually seen. Agreed...especially when he owns films like Jurassic Park, which contains more violence and suffering than Saw does. Yeah but the argument don't apply to lawyers being eaten alive Also i think hal is big on jeus and well you know these ppl just want everyone to live by there rules and don't respect freedom of choice. | | | Last edited: by ShinyDiscGuy |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote: Quoting samuelrichardscott:
Quote: Do you sleep with teddy bears and draw pictures of rainbows?
The fact that you feel quite justified in mocking someone because they have a problem with graphic violence and gratuitous sex, just goes to show how successful filmmakers have been in desensitizing the general public to this stuff. I'm sorry, but I do not think that's a good thing. I could be wrong, but I think he was being facetious. scotthm said, and I am paraphrasing here, that there is something wrong with people who enjoy slasher films. A generalization that, IMHO, is idiotic on it's face. samuelrichardscott just made a similar generalization. While I could be wrong, I don't think it was meant to be taken seriously, just an illustration of how idiotic generalizations are in general. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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