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Step Up 2: The Streets
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Quoting Dragon 6:
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the title should be "Stepping Up 2 the Street".

The title is Step Up 2 not Stepping Up 2. Look at the cover on the first page and you will see.

Unfortunately he can't. Photobucket have removed it.

Edit: but here's a link to the DVD on Amazon. You can see the cover there.
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In that case, here's the front again:

And also the rear, although that should still be there on the front page.
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the title should be "Stepping Up 2 the Street".

The title is Step Up 2 not Stepping Up 2. Look at the cover on the first page and you will see.


Thanks, obviously, I don't have the title, but the argument remains unchanged.
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What is on screen when the actual film is playing?


When the title starts on the screen, it starts with large black bold font that fades in first that says Step Up 2 then the streets fades in next. The streets is in smaller font and is red. When they are finally together on screen the streets is under Step Up 2 and off center by over half the word.
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What is on screen when the actual film is playing?


When the title starts on the screen, it starts with large black bold font that fades in first that says Step Up 2 then the streets fades in next. The streets is in smaller font and is red. When they are finally together on screen the streets is under Step Up 2 and off center by over half the word.


Unfortunatley that's irrelevant Dragon as we no longer use the film's credits to determine the DVD title. Now, the only time the title in the film's credits comes into play is when determining the Original Title...sadly .
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I do under stand that the title comes from the cover. What is in question is the word The Streets. The opening credits shows The Streets is a subtitle of Step Up 2 by how it is presented.
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It might also help to be reminded why I asked for that info in the first place:
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it seems to make sense to try and work out what the "original title" would be, as it may help us decide what the DVD makers intended the front cover to read.
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Now, the only time the title in the film's credits comes into play is when determining the Original Title...sadly .

Unfortunately, even then it mostly doesn't. It should, obviously, but somehow we got stuck with rules that tell us to get the original title from the "copyright notice" (without explaining what that actually means - and let me assure you that it's really not that obvious to most users), and only if there isn't any, "from the film's credits." In reality, this means that in cases where it really matters, the REAL title from the actual film credits is still inexplicably disregarded.
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Just to throw a little more fire on this debate:

Is there actually a space between "Step" and "Up" on the cover, or should it be "Stepup 2" or maybe even "Stepup2" 
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Now you're just being cruel! 
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I know, but some people are so fixated with the front cover... 
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Well there's one quick and easy way of shutting those guys up:


 
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Quoting Grendell:
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Read rules -> Read front cover -> Read back cover -> Check
overview -> Check title block -> Check multiple sources on the
Internet -> Draw conclusion using rules + best judgement

Following this yields "Step Up 2 the Streets"


Read Rules -> Read front cover -> Technically apply rules "by the
book," use no judgement

Following this yields "Step Up 2: The Streets"


Which one would you rather have the online database be based
on?

Actually there is a judgment made. Your second example is impossible. One has to determine if it's a sequel or not and if there is an episode descriptor in order to do what you call "technically apply rules".

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Looking at the title objectively, it seems clear that the
filmmakers wanted to be indicate that this was a sequel by including
"2" in the title, but at the same time they used "2" as a  substitute
for the word "to" so that when you say the title, you say "Step Up to
the Street"; you don't say "Step Up 2.......pause......The Street";
therefore "The Street" is not an episode descriptor.

Therefore, I have to agree with James and Nadja that the title should
be "Step Up 2 the Street".

Thanks, Hal. I was getting cold outside. 

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And let's be honest here, who really believes the
'filmmakers' had anything to do with what is written on the back
cover?

So the filmmakers could have intended "the streets" to be an episode descriptor but the creators of the DVD cover got a little over exuberant and decided to make the title look like a phrase when it really isn't? Are you denying that the title is a phrase?

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James, as I see it we have what the Rules tell us to do
with SEQUELS, ANYTHING else is simply trying to rationalize a reason
to not follow the Rules.

Skip

As others have pointed out, the rules say what to do with episode descriptors. "The Streets" is not an episode descriptor.

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Wow - you guys are really going to be in trouble when the release the 3rd installment (Yes James - it's a sequel - ahthough I agree with you there is nothing on the front cover that tells you that )

So, how will this title be shown in DVDP?

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According to Variety, Disney is moving forward with a third installment of its hit dance franchise "Step Up," tentatively titled Step Up 3-D


Obviously it will have to be Step Up 3: -D 



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Oh that's just bad news. It's not even a good film! 

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Quoting GSyren:
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Just to throw a little more fire on this debate:

Is there actually a space between "Step" and "Up" on the cover, or should it be "Stepup 2" or maybe even "Stepup2" 

hmm. Possibly even Step The Streets Up2. 
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So James according to your current spin, and that is NOT the word i WANT to use but...it is the least offensive

the Search for spock is not a descriptor, nor is it an Episode, likewise any other Stare Trek film, Star Wars film, Halloween..pick your poison, after all the Rule says EPISODE and not sequel and what waste  of an otherwise intelligent mind. Keep going, James you will destroy the Rules yet.

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So James according to your current spin, and that is NOT the word i WANT to use but...it is the least offensive

the Search for spock is not a descriptor, nor is it an Episode, likewise any other Stare Trek film, Star Wars film, Halloween..pick your poison, after all the Rule says EPISODE and not sequel and what waste  of an otherwise intelligent mind. Keep going, James you will destroy the Rules yet.

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No, that's not what I'm saying. But I'll stop to avoid further insults.
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As others have pointed out, the rules say what to do with episode descriptors. "The Streets" is not an episode descriptor.


In your opinion. Just because it does not have a colon. Like I have said before there are many titles out there that do not have a colon anywhere on the dvd.
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