Quoting surfeur51:

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I agree. With this "clarification", Ken put an end to the quality of his database, destroying linking for accented names. Three years later, the result is that some users stopped contributing and do not use anymore the online database. This result was the beginning of this discussion (page 1 of this thread).

You've repeatedly made this claim, but it makes no sense to me. Linking would still work just fine. People would just be listed under incorrectly-formatted names.

What does anything past post #7 have to do with this topic?  Please stop it.

Quoting huskersports:

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What does anything past post #7 have to do with this topic?  Please stop it.

Though the title of the thread is specific, the OP spoke in his first post of the generic problem when you download bad data from the online.

I have just spent many hours rebuilding the damage .

All this thread discusses mainly of this generic problem, and I do not think we are much off topic. We have moderators here, and they did not yet close the thread. Perhaps they will do, but waiting for this, I do not feel guilty to participate to this discussion.

Quoting Ace_of_Sevens:

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Quoting surfeur51:

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It is tiring to have to explain each time the problem:

With Ken clarification:

Movie 1 : credits Mélanie LAURENT > online Mélanie Laurent
Movie 2 : credits MELANIE LAURENT > online Melanie Laurent

Result: No linking for that actress between movie 1 and movie 2. And I explained on previous page why we have quite never "credited as" for those cases.

So what? One would be Melanie Laurent and the other would be Melanie Laurent credited as Mélanie Laurent, or possibly vice-versa. Linking would still work.

Have you read what is in bold in my previous post?. We "could" have linking, but we have not (and will probably never have...)

Quoting Ace_of_Sevens:

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I've seen you assert this. What I haven't seen is any evidence that the names would be linked if we did it your way. If people won't look up the link, why would they look up the correct formatting to make it link?

In the past, I proposed to share correct spelling of accented names. I can do the job for French actors, and I'm sure that we would find people to do the job for Spanish, Scandinavian or any other country. A list of given-name/surname for Asian actors could also be shared. Some users already share such type of information for headshots, or screencaps from movies.

At present time, we have to open common name threads that need several weeks (monthes?...) to get proper results after hours spent to examine credits. Only a very few of those threads were opened for accented names, though thousands would be needed. In one day, I can share a list of hundreds of accented names, correctly spelled, for French actors. But this is useless since Ken, one day, following the opinion of users that have no idea of european languages spelling, chose a solution that is (sorry Ken...  ) a nonsense.

And all those lists would be very useful when Ken will modify the name system (he said he was working on it) to get correct names in his database.

Quoting CharlieM:

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The linking will NEVER be solved, no matter what rules are made under the current system.  The number of people that actually participate in the forums, is very limited (even among the people that contribute). Even with your proposal(s), there would be negligible advancement.

This. Even with forum participation, the design is inherently flawed.

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Quoting Ace_of_Sevens:

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This. Even with forum participation, the design is inherently flawed.

I agree, and I'm waiting for the new system. But that is not a reason to enter wrong data when you know it is wrong. And that is what is asked to us. I'm disgusted to be obliged to add what I know to be spelling mistakes, and so I stopped contributing. I have now in my collection several profiles that are not at all in the database. Is that a good thing ? I do not think so...

Is it a good thing, no.  It is a choice. 

Do not lay that on the rules or Ken or the community.  You made a conscious decision to not contribute those profiles, or many updates (I presume, for I do not see your contributions).

There are many rules that I do not agree with, and much data that I keep track of that isn't allowed.  I still make an effort to contribute my work (within the rules), to at least share what work I can.  There are many others that do the same thing.

Since things are not going to change soon (given how things have gone up to this point), I suppose that you will continue to be selfish (since it is a choice that you did not contribute even partial profiles of data that you deem accurate within the rules).

An opinion

Charlie

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Since things are not going to change soon (given how things have gone up to this point), I suppose that you will continue to be selfish (since it is a choice that you did not contribute even partial profiles of data that you deem accurate within the rules).

I proved I'm ready to spend many hours to share data for dvdprofiler. The maintenance of my site, with more than 20000 screencaptures, takes me much more time than took my 400 contributions (which were complete ones, not just changes). You consider me as selfish, I consider the fact to contribute wrong data knowing they are wrong as sabotage. Why spend time to participate to something that has been continously destroyed those past three years (before 2007 profiles were generally great, without any useless cosmetic features) and has now no value ?
Just an opinion.

BTW. I noticed in your collection several movies for which we have no screenshots on my site. I do not think you ever contributed anything to this site which is regularly visited by dvdprofiler users (about 2000 pages seen yesterday). Would you say you are selfish since you own data you could share, and keep it only for you ???